just under 2.5k speed

cronus heals for 250 hp, so i had less than 24 hours before my fun new god weapon turned to shit manifesting weapon keeps coming in at 7%, which like. ok maniacal essence still heals for 10%, so either it hasn't been ruined yet or i just lucked out on my favorite weapon tempest gauntlet is at 9%, and i havent bothered to test anything aside from that.

YES! You've managed to find all the pieces to my bracelet! To thank you for this, I am giving you one of my very special items!

Shinwas Battle Wings

I was busy and wasn't really on top of things... if anyone's able to experiment if boosting speed affects healing, thanks in advance for doing it. I'll also try that with Cronus blade and Shinwas Lightning later but it might be a while to rummage through my daily stuff.

I'll post or update anything interesting about this if there weren't anything by then.

YES! You've managed to find all the pieces to my bracelet! To thank you for this, I am giving you one of my very special items! Shinwas Key I'm so pleased that you've finished this quest that I've decided to give you another item. Lucky you! Shinwas Health Potion

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Purge just said most t11s will act like the cronus (which does +100hp heal per +1000k spd).

So depending on ones health/spd stat, MW might become a staple. Especially since its attack is dynamic.

at fixed 7% heal, you get 70hp heal extra per 1000 HP but seemingly without limit and you have a higher HP starting point. Im sure there is a limit for those weapons tied to speed heals (a la Cronus)

it is interesting to see where this goes though.

Speed boosting doesn't work, not sure if intended or not. When I was at 4990 I was using Cronus each turn which boosts 25 speed and healing remained constant so..

any word on whether or not ME is going to be nerfed? since it's still a solid 10%

and if we're getting 100 hp heal per 1k speed, i'm wondering at this point whether it'd be worth it to raise my speed viciously, or just go for broke and dump everything into HP and try to absorb the damage i know i'm not going to be able to heal

@ satyr

yeah purge said in another thread that most t11 weapons will follow the Cronus since its a typical "godly" weapon. he mentioned that MW will stay at 7% because of its custom coding (i think that due to its attack?).

I could be wrong but i assume there is a heal cap. So there is a point where there's no use for extra speed.

(rant time)

And the more you pour into speed, the less starting HP you have. For every 1k HP you sacrifice for speed, you get 100hp extra heal per turn (so 5 turns to break even, double or triple that if using 100% healers like PQ or RotL).

However, that extra 100-200heal wont do shit if you get KO'd when frozen or if they crit. Something that having a higher starting HP will.

So, its a give and take, its all circumstantial. One is not necessarily better than the other.

And thats the annoying part,we dont know shit. and we wont know shit until its done

Thank you I guess they want to make speed stat mandatory then.

I got this Cronus blade for Dark Rexel (3000 speed, def, approx 3000 str currently) x120 Magma def 100hp heal

Is the 20 def magma icons at 3000 def worth the loss of 650hp heal?

Using the current Defense Formula: Icons * sqrt(Defense) / 4 Plug in 20 icon and 3000 defense. Result is 273.8hp defended That's less than 650hp heal, which is a downgrade.

i'm going to be so upset when that happens.

now admittedly a lot of this might just be "afraid of change" backlash on my part, but this speed -> healing idea seems like a really, really bad one. more of an arbitrary punishment to those of us who chose not to invest in speed. and actually a punishment to everyone else because from where i'm standing now (and i have no reason to think otherwise because no one has told us differently), it kind of seems like everyone's suffering a downgrade.

are we really expected to pack on 7500 fucking speed to hit the 750 heal? the only scenario i'd ever, ever entertain a notion like that would be with a phantom cap.

im getting as many wins on IMP challengers before they change all the staple weapons.

Im sure many people will struggle against Prodigy again after healing like 3-500hp less per weapon.

Just an additional remark to my previous comment, I don't like the new change to the Cronus Blade so far. Varies on the pets stats of course, but for 3k stats as reference entry T12 that's a huge downgrade. 3k each stat is a lot of stats to gain till T12.

In addition, the heal can serve as typeless icon defense. Now the healing's less and you must defend the icon type of the weapon which is less flexible and doesn't make up enough for the healing decrease unless you're really high (5k+?) speed.

Hence I'm very disappointed.

right? might as well get it now before the fun goes away for good

So I'm letting main pet have a break and decided to let pet 2 get some battles in. Figured I'd do it different this time around, gather some amulets/tomes/ect. first.

Cursed Effigy the Tormented.... wow just /wow!/

Dark Mage Amulet x2 Magma Mage Amulet x1 Death Mage Amulet x1 Scale of Red Rreign x4

Pet 2 got REALLY lucky there, wow.

I am really not a fan of this new healing and speed formula.nGranted I'm about to break 5k speed, the healing kind of... Sucks.

Why couldnt this speed/health ratios be of effect to t13 only? Til two days ago it was a different system affecting us, now with the new cap of 13k extra stats couldnt it only affect pets at 22k or more? Its bad for pre capped pets, its worse for yet to be capped pets. Its now a double dillema between pouring all exp to speed get better heal and then paying 3x post 22k for the same plus boosting for health. Ugh, what a nightmare! D8

They should just get rid of speed.

Getting rid of speed is another solid option, just refund the EXP value of the speed a pet alread has so they can get real stats.

100 HP at 3K speed sounds criminally low. Even if we were to take like a 2.5K health tier 12, that is still a nerf. The opponent would have to be doing a heck of a lot of magma to actually make the extra 20 defense contribute something, and even then, the only lower level tier 12 challenger that even has a chance of justifying more than 100 magma is Erupting Forj (and she has a low base attack of 4000 and does 80 magma maximum).

Cronus Blade for 1 speed lol (I don't have any other pets with less than 3k speed that could use this T12 weapon) x100 Magma def 100hp heal

Yeah I agree It's a major nerf. The opponent could randomly do a bunch of icons of another type, and you're going to rely on very high speed or your scroll to multiheal.