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Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
Aztec
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Like I said, if someone can actually provide me with a visual example of what they're referring to that's different than the Neela and Bhakoru, maybe I'll change my mind.

But I don't support a gradient in saheric colors. I support a gradient, and I support pastels. But not saheric, and not a gradient in saheric colors.

Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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Alrighty then, lets see if I can clarify. Had no idea this idea would be so controversial.

I hadn't thought of gradient colors at first, but they could be very lovely and would neatly solve the "problem" of the Bhakoru and Neela. It wouldn't matter if the color palette was the same as the common color for those species because the overall design would be different. Just because there isn't a gradient color currently available in no way invalidates a gradient color in the future. Gradients can be tacky sure but I have confidence that the art team could make them look lovely. They've already proved that with the current Saheric gradient items.

Even if a Saheric color was not gradient it still would not cause any issues with the Bhakoru or Neela. The colors can just be swapped around. Instead of the blue shade as the dominate color on the Bhakoru, change it to the pale purple or orangish color. Bam done. Yes it would be similar to common, but so what? There is TONS of precedence for this.

I stopped after I hit three examples and I was only up to "Chelon" on the species list. I'm sure there tons more. Just because a color would be similar in one or two species to their default color does not make the idea invalid.

I do not have an art program and cannot swap out colors as I have no idea how so I cannot make an example of the Neela or Bhakoru in this color scheme. Metroid did a gradient on the first page that shows that this can be done.

Even if staff does no want to do a Saheric themed pet, I still think the different colors would be lovely. We can have pastel lavender, green, pink, and so one for many different new colors if need be. I just would like there to be more colorfill pets available and think this colorscheme is gorgeous and would look lovely on most pets.

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Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
Aztec
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You kind of just highlighted the point I was trying to make though. I'm not talking about the Neela and Bhakoru having one similar color to the suggested palate. I'm talking about the fact that you want the entire saheric palate, which is already used on both of those pets, on the other pets. The pets you posted have one similar color, not an entire color palate.

That is my argument. That you want an entire palate that is already in use on two pets' default colors on the rest of the species. Not one, but at least three.

Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree here. I just don't see the problem with using that color scheme on different pets. I think the benefits overall outweigh the negatives of having a pet with two similar color options. It's fine if you think it is redundant, not every one has to like every color.

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Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
Aztec
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As I've said multiple times now. Pastel? Cool. Thumbs up. Saheric? Not cool. Thumbs down.

Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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I agree with Aztec. I think Pastel would work better as a color in an of itself. Saheric is too specific. And the existing pets that are from that area have the colors your are suggesting for saheric.

Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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I'm not going to talk about Saheric vs non-Saheric, but I think a pastel palate would be very, very pretty. I'd love to see it.

Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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I legitimately thought we were going to get a Saheric color when that plot came to an end, so to say the least I'd love to see it happen.

Why not just call it Saherimos "the actual meaning of Saherimos being "Sacred Sands." or a variation of that word meaning "sands" ie: color of the sands/desert-- a land location that typically consists mostly of golden/pale sands, blue skies, and purples/reds depending on how the light hits it. Exactly like the two pet's in question which has absolutely nothing to do with either of them anymore than Swampies base color being green.

It's a color pallet taken from nature, and I really don't see what that has to do with two pets already being of that color scheme. If anyone wishes to take a whirl through a google search of "desert" they'll see that it's 100% possible to simply darken the color schemes of those two pets, or change the colors entirely.

I'm crap at image mods and I'm pretty sure the artists could do a better job, but folowing the same blues/purples/yellows scheme here's a Bhakoru with altered colors:

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Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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I don't really see that as altered colors, though, just higher contrast/more vibrant. It's still the same palate. Making the Bhakoru and Neela saheric as a separate color would be redundant, as they already are saheric.

edit: I've gotten like four forum points from this damn topic wtf lol

Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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Way back when in 2011, I was still supportive of using either of these more subdued color schemes for a Saheric color. Perhaps the Neelah and Bhakoru have gotten more vibrant through domestication? Idk

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Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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I really enjoyed Metroid's mock-up of a Saheric Neela. I don't think the fact that there are a few pets with similar color schemes to what the OP is looking for should really affect the creation of the colorfill. There are plenty of blue pets that are still available in Dusk, such as the Chelon, Clawison, and the Cybill.

What they did for the pets in this case was darken the blue. I don't see why they couldn't darken the Saheric shades for the Bhakoru or the Neela.

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Nov 17, 2014 11 years ago
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Because those were taking one single, similar color from the pet, not the entire palate

Nov 18, 2014 11 years ago
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I get that it'd be using the same colour pallet as another pet an not just a similar colour, but I don't think that's a bad thing? I think the Saheric colours are super pretty and I'd love to see them for other pets~ My only thought is maybe the Bhakoru and Neela (and maybe Noktoa) could just have colours swapped around for them to have their own version? I mean keep in mind not all pets come in all colours so they don't NEED to have another Saheric colouring, but if they did it could be something like this maybe? (please ignore the bad photoshop job, I did it really quick and it was just to give a rough idea, not to get the colours spot on;;) original bad photoshop job :v

Basically they'd have the same colours used, but they'd be in different places on them. Maybe not a big enough difference for some, but seeing as some pet colours are similar I don't see it being a problem. (Again, I get they're not just similar but the SAME colours, but I think using them differently is enough. ymmv tho.)

As an aside this has made me realise how badly I want a Bhakoru-- they're so pretty! (And how badly I want to make a Saheric recolour for some other pets if I can bother to put some real effort into it haha.)

Either way I support this, even if just to get other pets in pretty colours.


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Nov 18, 2014 11 years ago
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I feel stupid for asking this but what's wrong with using an existing pet color scheme?

Nov 19, 2014 11 years ago
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Because in my view, it's redundant for the two pets that already have that palate. You can't really recolor a saheric pet saheric, because it already is that color.

It also hasn't been done before. And yes, yes, of course there's a first time for everything, but I don't want this being a first time thing. Basic recolors should be BASIC, not THEMED (excluding nuclear, however I've said I would be alright with gradient as a semi special recolor, as long as it's not saheric themed. and nuclear isn't themed around any specific place or object in subeta. it's just nuclear).

I mean, I'd like to think I'm pretty open minded, but as of yet the only examples people have given me are the gradient, upped color contrast, and swapping where the colors are on the pet. (which doesn't really make sense to me, because on most of the saheric items and pets, baby blue is kind of the predominant color). Nothing that, to me, screams 'Hey, this could actually work and not be super redundant for the already saheric colored pets!'

Nov 19, 2014 11 years ago Official
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If we were to use 'Saheric' as a colour-scheme, we'd definitely want to do a repose for it. Those colours are just to pretty to use as a colourfill c:

Pastels, however, I would be down for a nice base-recolour of!


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Nov 19, 2014 11 years ago
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Wattlebird

Omg if there was a saheric color ALL OF MY PETS WOULD BE SAHERIC.

Nov 19, 2014 11 years ago
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Craig

We need more colorfills imo! There's a lot of common posed pets that I really like but most if our color options are, for a lack if better words, not that anesthetically pleasing (so many are eyecrossingly bright). Like pastels, washed-out/muted (washed out common colors), I know once a board was made just for red!

I support both more colorfills on top of Sahreic which I'd need like 3+ of instantly.

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Nov 19, 2014 11 years ago Official
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- I definitely agree! So many plans for colour fills, honestly. Am excite!


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Nov 19, 2014 11 years ago
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If we were to use &;Saheric&; as a colour-scheme, we&;d definitely want to do a repose for it. Those colours are just to pretty to use as a colourfill c:</p>
<p>Pastels, however, I would be down for a nice base-recolour of!

Some kind of sun or desert-themed repose would make me so happy omg. I feel like Subeta could come up with something way more classy and pretty than just slapping some "Egyptian" clothes on pets.

Pastels or less saturated colors in general sound great as new colorfills too. We haven't had a new one introduced in so long.

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