Hahaha finally saw this movie. I also saw it in 2D which I thought was perfectly fine (my eyeballs can't handle 3D so it's a moot point anyway lolol). I too liked the space bits better than the world bits, especially since they left stuff out of the world bits that I really wanted to know.
I found the pace of the movie was a little too slow for my liking, to the point where I actually thought in the movie theater "wow, this movie is moving so slowly". Maybe it's cause the movie was too close to the event horizon. rimshot
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The science really annoyed me. I don't feel they explained it at all to my satisfaction except with some handwaving about Love, and I really wanted them to explain the "them" concepts and they didn't and arrrgh I don't know.
I did like the ending. I like that it didn't just get wrapped up in a bow, that it implies there's still more to be told, I find that very satisfying and a little melancholy at the same time.
I agree with my RL friend that it's the Matthew McConaghey Story and the one woman scientist is treated like a moron through the whole thing, which annoyed me, especially because in their patient explaining of How She Is So Wrong And Logic Wins she still ends up being right. It also doesn't pass the Bechdel test (I know, I know, but still, one of the random scientists anywhere couldn't have also been a lady? Really?) and that annoyed me too.
I mean, it's all GRAVITY IS SOOO IMPORTANT but hey now that we can use morse code we're gonna kinda forget this whole big thing we made out of the gravity equation and hey, look at these cool special effects!
Gorgeous movie, I felt the science part of the story suffered a little bit. I wanted more. On the other hand, SO much pathos for the daughter. Not a fan of some of the early young life scenes, but later? With the videos? AUGH.
So yeah, I'm in the half/half camp. I really liked half the things about it and really didn't like half the things about it. :)
Oh god Contact. I was thinking about that movie when I left after Interstellar. Wasn't Matthew in that one, too, come to think of it? Yeah, I want to go rewatch that one now. That, to me, is a space exploration movie done right. Book's excellent, too.
Yay, finally! :D
For me, it went by super fast. Even faster the second time around. I liked it first time around and then the second time blew me away. 8D /obsessed now lol
sorry I blab too much /cries you can just nod or something xD
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I don't think there was enough science, because it was so straight forward? I mean I felt Inception was more confusing and more explained than Interstellar was? I agree, I would have loved more science. But some people were already so overwhelmed that I think Nolan chose to limit it to attract a wider audience ... which didn't happen anyway? xD /facepalm haha
Idk. I feel like they explained the "them" concept too much? Like Cooper had an epiphany when talking to the robot in the tesseract and said omg them is future us from the future, it's us!! And I would have preferred him to not box "them" into that category, because it could have been aliens or God / gods or .. something else? Instead he really insisted it was the future human race, which makes the whole thing a closed time loop (what with the coordinates and having the human embryos survive outside of earth) and closed loops piss me off no matter the scientific explanation (like ... how in a singularity time is infinite so technically Cooper has ALWAYS been there to send his past self the coordinates which makes it really, really eerie, I guess? ;O; creeeeepy).
I think the more I will watch it (because I fully intend on doing so haha), the more I will appreciate the ending. The first time felt like it was stilted. The second time around was much better.
Idk. I really liked Hathaway's character. At first she annoyed me, but I grew to like her. It's interesting how they showed the guys brushing her opinions off because they were emotions when Cooper kept making decisions based on HIS emotions (like when she ran out into the water and he got frustrated because she was wasting HIS PRECIOUS time to retrieve data and acting in a purely scientific capacity -- when this got switched, he easily dismissed her because it wasn't something HE was invested in himself and I think that spoke volumes to what Dr. Mann said -- Caine's character needed to lie because people weren't altruistic to look beyond their own self-interests and even Cooper had that .. so I think it's a fascinating character study). Did you know Murph was a guy in the first draft of the script? I mean I am SO glad they changed that and made Murph a woman.
Wait, what? Gravity enabled Cooper to move the watch to write morse code. There would be no morse code without gravity? :O
Jessica Chastain killed it omg. So many emotions. <3 T___T you .. were... my ghost! oh god I could cry a river so easily, so sentimental u__u
Haha at the beginning I was like what's the point of the scene with them chasing that missile? So glad it got better... like when she turned her car around and burned her brother's field while Cooper was struggling on the ice planet.
I'm glad you .. liked it? :) Yay!
For me, I wanted to cut the earth scenes by about half. And, I don't know, maybe shorten Matthew's monologues or something. xD (I will never learn how to spell his last name, omg)
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Yeah, I think it was more a case of not enough actual science to balance the fictional science. Or that the fictional science, at a particular point, kind of takes over the actual science and everyone forgets to talk about it, like the point you made about time passing after Hathaway and Matthew split up. I mean, technically about a million years should have passed for everyone else, but he makes it back within people's lifetimes because...MAGIC? I mean, I can get that Hathaway and Matthew might still be in the same vague time range because she was busy slingshotting as he was kinda falling, but even that's a stretch for me. I'm half positive he'll get back there only to find a thriving colony of thousands and a statue to her or something.
I agree, I think they should have left out the "them" references, or minimized it. Because while the "them" anomalies they're talking about are 2/3 Matthew, yeah, there's the part about how the tesseract has been deliberately designed for him, and he certainly didn't do that, and they say it's because of "them". But that's never explained and it bugs me. Other people who have died? Another race that's hanging back and seeing how things go because they can't get much more involved and Matthew's the Chosen Avatar or whatever? UGH
And the part that REALLY bugged me about the earth bit is that clearly most of a lifetime has passed for everyone. But there's not word one about the brother. I mean, it can be inferred that the crowd of people around her bed is her family and possibly his as well, but it's like the brother drops off the face of the earth, as does the issues on earth we're supposed to be SO DESPERATELY WORRIED ABOUT. We leave the earth as his crops are getting burninated, but does that mean that corn eventually failed entirely? If so, when? Was it a scramble to have to get off earth or did the have time to leisurely build a station or three and implement it all? Did the brother even get off earth or did he refuse to leave his precious corn? We're supposed to be SO CONCERNED about his family and yet they're just...forgotten in favor of lingering over the crazy gravity theory.
Yeah, I can see how the gravity/morse thing works, but they didn't even bother handwaving the science of it. There's strings. Of...energy? fifth dimension stuff? Actual gravity in tangible form? WHAT. It's like they just said "HERE, THIS IS HOW IT IS but we're not gonna explain it, have fun!" I need a little more linkage than that. I can see the cause and effect, but the lack of explanation on that bothers me because they were so good at keeping to actual science in the beginning. Also, apparently the gravity equation is essential for getting the station up off of earth. How? We come back to the solar system and everything's magically in place, I feel like I missed a chapter of the story and we're never told how that works.
God so glad they made Murph a woman too. The movie would have seriously suffered the other way around, and I think it makes an incredibly nice foil to have two daughters and their two dads and showing the differences in their relationships through video.
Ironically, Hathaway annoyed me more the further in we went, mostly because they were so awful to her character. Why is she the one that breaks everything? Ugh. Although Mann I thought was very interesting, supposedly the best of them who succumbs to the worst impulses. That I would have liked to see more of, and less blame gaming.
I really liked the Indian probe bit. I thought it really brought home, and well, how drastically the situation can change even when it looks like not too far in the future. Also, the bit with the parent teacher meeting and that teacher who genuinely believed the moon landing was fake? OMG that hit home, and hard.
Also I couldn't help thinking that of course the black guy dies. xD /trope
AHAHAHA. I have a different problem. I can spell it, but I don't think I can pronounce it correctly? lol we fail xD
loving this discussion btw :D thanks for indulging me <3
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People have explained that with the singularity and how time is infinite so he didn't spend "any" time there, so returning to his solar system didn't cost him any additional time, but that wouldn't explain the fall into the black hole? THE MORE YOU CALCULATE THE WEIRDER IT GETS. nuuuuuuuuuuuuuu xD /shaky fists Plus Edmund's planet where Hathaway landed on isn't technically near the black hole to cause time dilution. I remember listening for his name the second time around to see if I understood correctly and they say Mann's and that other scientist woman's planet (water planet) were near the black hole. So it seems like a stretch to say Cooper would reach Hathaway in time to see her alive. Maybe that's what they intended but by not showing us their reunion at the end, they're trying to fool us into thinking it would be possible? Instead, she's stuck on the planet with her embryos until she dies and generations later, Cooper shows up and says GOOD NEWS, FOLKS, I LIVE!! ?? xD
It felt like Contact when he tried to explain them as us. :c Ugh, cut out that dialogue, please. They chose him because of the bond he shared with Murph. Because love conquers everything. Which is the sappiest thing ever, but I'm pretty sure most movies use this to some degree, so I'm not upset over it. It's not romantic love, which is a good thing, because it would have felt like a stretch compared to a parent-child bond.
lol Cooper doesn't give a crap about his son. Poor guy. xD Yeah, I agree. I wished the movie was an extra hour long if it meant mentioning the son (what was his name again? hur hur) a little more and showing the progression from apocalypse now to space station near Saturn. :c FOUR HOUR MOVIE PLEASE. Who is with me? Okay, that would have been excessive, but I would have gladly starved myself one hour longer for more closure haha. :3
I feel like they would have ran the risk of further absurdity if they tried to explain how the station got off the ground. If they don't show it, no one can fault them for being "wrong", right? They played it safe. ;l Haha, the gravity looked like strings on musical instruments. I was fine with it only because I haven't really imagined what gravity could look like or how another dimension would make things like time appear. It's so mind-boggling, so I took the violin strings and said okay yup that's fine with me.
They named it after ME, AWWW. ....no, it's named after your daughter. ohohohoho :'D I couldn't help but laugh either. I'm so glad they had two female scientists (Brand and Murph)! Technically three if you count the lady who died on water planet (ugh so many deaths xD). OMG YES. Two daughters, two dads. So great. It was kind of funny to see Caine rattle on about do not go edit: gentle (woops typo) into that good night on his videos to his daughter. I felt so bad for her, because Cooper got these emotionally charged messages from his kids and she got.... more detached messages.
ngl her lines to Cooper were a bit cringe-worthy just because I wished she could have explained her emotions in a more logical basis instead of just saying so? suck it, I feel this way, so what?
Matt Damon took me out of the movie. Was not expecting his face. Matt v. Matt. :'D He was just too loony when he got out of his sleeping chamber for him not to attack Cooper. Loved his ramblings. c:
So much rage. I felt so angry at the teacher who said that. Matthew's acting with his response was top notch. ;O;
AHAHHAA. OMG I thought the same thing. Not only THAT, but he had the worst fate! Waited over TWO decades alone in space for them to come back only to die (moments? hours?) later. Gee, thanks, you guys. /two thumbs up :c Poor Rom. So wanted to hug the guy.
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