That's what I thought. (:

ummm where did you go? why aren't you going to pay for my overlay? ...

i just went through her comments and she was trash talking me to another user -__- then, the same person who is also talking trash, says they like it and it's cute.

psh.

what the FUCK.

what a little prat. i can't wait till the world goes round her and smacks her right in the face.

i am really sorry that happened to you, dear. you seriously don't deserve that. i'd pay you double for any art you made me! ❤️

good thing you reported her, too. she's in for it.

Clearly that person did like the overlay but decided not to pay, if they took it. That's positively ridiculous. It's a good thing you reported them for it.

It doesn't matter if they don't use it or not, the fact of the matter is they spent time to make it and they deserve to be paid for their time even if they don't like what they got.

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They can work together to make it right but they still have to pay for it. =|

i've had a mail from another user, warning me not to do a commision for her, because she's been paying in hard to sell items, claiming she doesn't have the money to pay anymore! i steered right clear! i'm sorry that happened to you- i was watching it happen, livid that she was doing this sort of stunt again. i hope she gets what she deserved for screwing around other users! :<

Yeah, I hope that no one else does a commission for her and has to suffer because of it.

File a ticket just like everybody else said :D

And stijn is right the questions asked above were irrelevant.

Not to mention if someone was that worried about not liking the picture, they should have seen samples before letting the artist work on it. Not to mention come up with some type of contract in case they did not like it.

They broke the rules, so let the book get thrown at them.

what the hell? there should be a blacklist on subeta for people who dont pay for their commissions/scam people so everyone can just steer clear from them.

I see lots of complaints about artists not completing commissions in a timely fashion and artists ducking out on people by not responding to comments and smails from people that have commissioned them.

I don't see too many complaints from artists saying their buyers are dissatisfied and still want to be paid.

Since the first post didnt say that it was used, I asked questions about the art - the OP is being vague about what the dissatisfaction was so I'd like to know what the problem with the art was - hence the questions - shrugs

So let me get this straight - ya'll think that someone should have to pay for art even when they are dissatisfied with it? (If it's the art on post I can see why the buyer would be dissatisfied - it's not a very good relcolor IMhO)

I don't think that anyone should have to pay for art they aren't satisfied with IF THEY ARE NOT going to use it. But If they use it --- they by all means they should pay for it!

As previously stated in this thread, that IS what the rule say must happen:

Not going to get into what I think about the rules for buying and selling art here, because I have already done so elsewhere, but the fact is that the person HAS to pay if the art was finished, even if they don't like it.

i saw the board in action, though. the examples were as good quality as that was (ie, you get what you ask for tbh) so why expect anything more? they'd agreed on leaving certain things out, and the buyer seemed to have "forgotten" details and then been rude about the whole thing afterwards. i wouldn't want to be critisised for reading a commision wrong, then have the person tell me to redo a perfectly fine piece!

I think the recolour was done very well.

I still don't think it should matter if they were satisfied or not. This person put loads of time into the overlay. they should get some sort of payment.

Oh jeez Jessyta! According to that ABSURD rule - As a buyer - if I am not satisfied with the art that I have commissioned ON THE ART MARKET - then it is not finished. I wonder if that applies to art not discussed on the art market. There are lots of word of mouth commissions that don't even see the art market!

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Another question for the OP - did you offer or try to fix the art to satisfy the buyer?

DaBlu, why don't you just look at the users last few posts? This was done over the forums. It's easier and faster than asking questions and waiting for a response.

I agree that even if you don't like the art you should pay for it, I think the artist should take the time to try to please you but you are taking up a considerable amount of their time, they should be paid for it.

They used it and then took it down after the OP reported them. They also either tried to edit it themselves or got a friend to...that implies that they weren't entirely dissatisfied.

Well, ideally, an artist might work with the commissioner if he's not satisfied (within reason), but an artist still deserves to be paid if he completed the requested piece to the standard of the examples he posted. This isn't the thread to debate the site's rules regarding art, though.

If the commissioner liked it enough to "take" it, he/she needs to pay for it.

Miazaki - I have read every post on this thread. It was not established ON THIS THREAD until message that the buyer was actually using the art - my initial questions were asked in message , before that was established.

If there is information available on another forum about this situation --- I'm not hunting it all down - I am responding to what I see here - yet if there is a forum where the person being complained about can be identified, then that breaks the targeting rules of this forum.

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I have done a few commissions for people and I would not expect payment UNTIL they were satisfied. I don't see how any graphics artists can expect a payment for work that a customer isn't happy with.

I still would like to know what IF ANYTHING the OP did to satisfy their buyer - since they have been unclear about some facts on this thread.

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I don't frequent the ART MARKET - and am not familiar with the rules specific to that forum. So I am not DEBATING a rule - just having a knee jerk reaction to the absurdness of it.

Darling - since the artist has not responded to questions about what they did to satisfy the buyer - they is no way of knowing if there was or was not a reasonable negotiation.

i would appreciate if i weren't talked to as if i wasn't here, firstly.

secondly, i didn't redo the commission because i do pixel art, and it's incredibly difficult to use MS paint and recolor an entire image like that in strictly pixels.

thirdly, this thread wasn't created for anyone to criticize my artwork. it's about someone stealing/using it after being so 'horribly dissatisfied.' so don't even voice your opinion on it unless it's something nice, because otherwise its just rude.

FOURTHLY, i did not expect payment when she was dissatisfied so don't make accusations. i told her the order was canceled, and i was closing the board. then her, and two other people offered to pay, and i declined.

DO NOT act like i'm not here. i'm not the 'OP' i'm a person with a name that you can read perfectly fine.