Here is some info xD

Thanks. So basically, he's aware and the thing needs heavy lifting work. Good to know.. Because the Home Appliances issue isn't the rare items problem, the items that the quest asks for are all really common. So hopefully he can kick the system again and get it working soon, because those quests are almost undoable as is.

uh, i haven't played on here for several months now, but i came back the other day and was restocking for fun.. and i've noticed the exact same items keep restocking over and over, which i think is also leading to some items not stocking at all. also i am at what appears to be a 20 second cooldown in between purchases. i know that's intended and probably not many people will reach it but uh... it's not fun lol. i guess the answer is probably just touch grass tho. >_>

Interesting, on my end I seem to have no limit. I can buy items as fast as possible.

I am noticing the same as everyone, same things popping up and I'm starting to worry. ~~At least this is helping me get some beanbags/plushies/food items that others are probably sick of restocking. ~~

Edit: nevermind, I have a three second delay now.

Keith, I've noticed the Mystical Magical Celestial Lolly always restocking. It's always there. it restocking twice in 3 min and I feel that it will eventually become worthless like before. I'm not sure if it's supposed to RS twice in 3min, but it does. Just lkke some high end expensive plushies. One is always RSing. A golden slushi

Minor suggestions / requests: Currently, if i want to see if the cooldown is still in effect + how severe it currently is, I need to go into a shop on the kumos site, hit view all items, and click the "More" button to load the page that would allow to purchase an amount of the item at once. Having it show up as a (de)buff on the regular site would be great, having it show the amount of time remaining until it resets would be even better.

If you're planning to dial it down over the next few days, I'd be in favor of having it ramp up to 5 seconds as it currently does, and then stay there until an hour or two of inactivity. This would still slow down those of us who are able to lurk online for long periods restocking, enabling others without the time penalty to restock in short bursts and get priority on everything when they catch a restock and see rares they want to grab.

Currently, I'd love to restock several hundred cheaper common food items to have sitting around for when I'm in the mood to free trapped minions, but as the system currently is, it's a choice between doing that, and restocking the actual valuable items to put in my shop. On a somewhat related note, a "Buy x amount" from usershops would be really appreciated for lots of other site content as well. :P

As far as the "frequently asked for in quests" issue is concerned, have you considered approaching the problem from the other side? Having quest givers request items weighted towards those that are cheaper for their rarity seems like it would solve the issue over time.

But Subeta never had problems with the quests?! It's only Kumos' quests that are buggy. And they'll soon be history, right?

Hiya, have been brewing some feedback on restocking. I love restocking and it is what brought me to Subeta in the first place! It has been interesting experiencing the new update. I have really liked some of the recent changes but others feel a bit funky. I'm a newer player and am not a big strategist when it comes to restocking - most of my fun comes from the feeling of treasure-hunting and casually running a shop.

Why I find restocking fun:

• Finding and reselling treasure!
• Exploring Subeta’s items and managing a shop!
• Making sp and helping with future questing!

Problems with restocking (imo):

• Not enough item supply for quests and inflated items: Low item supply leading to high inflation and market manipulation. Market manipulation relies on people making mistakes when buying for quests and has the potential to spoil the questing experience.
• Items not re-entering the economy: This will always happen to an extent for a number of reasons. I don’t have many thoughts about this one, other than Subeta has a wide range of players, new and old - and everyone should be able to have a chance to restock or collect if they want!

What feels good at the moment:

• Having more rares pop up: Really loved this change, right when the updates came through. It felt good to see new items pop in, and I was looking forward to each cycle.
• Early part of scaling cooldown: When restocking in a burst, it feels good being able to just stock without a cooldown.
• Updated Legacy Experience: The legacy layout is very cosy, and feels like it is running nicely with the updates.

What doesn’t feel good:

• Seeing the same rares repeatedly: This is a big one - part of the fun of restocking is seeing what new items pop up after each cycle. Seeing the same rares over and over doesn’t incentivise me to restock for longer periods - it just doesn’t feel fun or like I am finding treasure.
• Scaling cooldown feels too harsh: could this be capped at 5 seconds? I used to like setting aside an hour or two for restocking, which was possible without the scaling cooldown. Now I am doing it in more short bursts - pretty much solely because of the cooldown. While it is nice to be able to do more in a short period, overall I am not really stocking up as much quantity as I would like. Lower stock numbers with faster buy time: Shops can still feel a bit repetitive and empty with the combo of same rares + lower stock with faster buy up time.

I’m missing aspects of the Kumos system (even though it was a shock to me when it first came out), like:

• Bulk buying: Being able to bulk buy a number of items at once was really useful for me, and encouraged me to try and stock lower rarity items instead of just going for rares. It also reduced my time restocking while increasing overall supply! I hope this can be implemented as part of normal restocking.
• Higher stock numbers & daily item caps: Although at first I didn't like seeing lots of items in shops, I kinda miss these now. Higher stock of low rarity items made the rarer items feel more valuable. The daily item caps stopped me from overbuying each day, and thought they were a fair way of balancing access to more stock (unsure if this worked in practice).
• Ability to sort stock: Specifically by Last Stocked or by Amount in Stock - being able to do this helped with my restocking times. It would be amazing to have more sorting options in shops. I understand that part of restocking is knowing items and being strategic, but also like, I don't have much time for that anymore. The satisfaction I'm getting out of restocking is running a nice shop, snagging rares, and seeing new items come in. I just don't have time to do the gamey-individually keep track of rare items anymore, and being able to sort items was useful.
• Lists of all items that can be stocked: Again, another time-savey quality of life thing that I'm missing in the legacy shops for similar reasons to above. It helped me quickly learn new items and was a nice alternative view to the standard shop view.

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The thing is, it never happens on Subeta. The questers in Subeta always ask for reasonably priced items. The problem is with Kumos quests, where they ask for the exact same items, so their prices are inflated

I agree with this part of what wrote, about Kumos. Kumos shop system had some nice improvements, it would be great to see them here too (+full sales history in user shops pretty please)

I don't agree at all. All those Kumos aspects of make restocking easier and shop sorting plus r75-99 abundancy etc. are, what caused the dilemma of worthless rares and missing Kumos quest fodder. And naturally spread over to Subeta.

Restocking has always been a (challenging) part of the game. - Oh, of course I grabbed the opportunity to go out and simply easy-peasy stuff my vault with tons of special items, because I am devoted to being prepared and also need the high rarities for easier fragging as well (in the back of my head thinking "this is not good, this will take a bad ending..."). But were is the excitement of not only spotting but also maybe grabbing a high rarity item in the shops? And then the joy of having snatched something really valuable? All gone, virtually everything near worthless. And no profit to make from it, either. P.S.: over all that time there were a couple of items, that I would have loved to get, which didn't restock at all. Never.

As said before, Subeta never had any problems with questing. I simply point to the many postings of users lamenting all along Kumos' evolution, how much better and more profitable (and easier to use) Subeta quests are.

It always boils down to "never change a running system". Now that Subeta's major deadly virus could be healed, it should simply keep running as before (with maybe SMALL ENHANCEMENTS here and there) and NEW stuff could be added. Don't tamper with existing features that run smoothly (of course by now a little damage has already been inflicted but couild still easily be reversed) and that people are used to and love! Obviously these changes are not for the better!

The argument "I don't have time for restocking" is not valid. A lot of changes made recently involve having to spend much more time and attention on former simple alert/click and go features. I don't have time for playing games. I don't have time for wardrobe. Actually I don't have time to keep posting endless sermons. I have to spend tons more time here than I want/can afford for getting my dailies and questing and restocking done. Priorities.