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Sep 17, 2024 1 year ago
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i'd like to echo that getting multiple pings for the same post is tiresome to sort through. some will tag the larger customerwear group in addition to their smaller, creator-specific groups, and the cw creator's art group in one post and i get a ping for every group. it's not annoying, but being able to consolidate that into one notification would be a great QoL thing.

also, if there was a way to sort through forum groups as a whole to find new ones to join, i would like that. for example, if a forum group is private, it should be indicated as such and not show up in the search (unless, maybe, you check a box to search for private groups). a toggle like the cw shops and being able to only look at unlocked cws is exactly what i mean.

Sep 17, 2024 1 year ago
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If the official subeta staff are using them, like the siteupdate, make it possible for me to browse all the recent pings in that group. Actually, that should be a feature for every group.

I love the many suggestions that were put forth on the forums years ago, on Frost's thread. Overall I'd just like to see any site feature be complete, without unfinished pieces, before a new project is begun. The forum groups were never "finished" and that seemed like a big deal at the time because guilds cults were removed. So overall it would just be cool to see a complete feature.

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Sep 18, 2024 1 year ago Official
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the group search is my big # 1 (SORRY # 1 GROUP) thing, but here are my other things i&;d like to see:</p>
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<li>let me pick if people are notified of me kicking them out of a group - sometimes i just want to quietly remove someone from a group without them knowing. not to reveal the Secrets, but i know some ppl just create new private groups instead of removing people from their groups because they don&;t want to remove people from groups as it notifies them, so i think this would be a great QoL improvement (and pretty easy to implement?)</li>
<li>let me HIDE hide my private groups - would be nice if no one can see certain groups if the group is fully hidden. like, they should not know it exists unless i say they can be in it type of hidden.</li>
<li>let me block people from joining my groups (even if they&;re public) - if i have someone blocked, i should be able to choose if they interact with my forum groups (just like i should be able to choose if they interact with my cw shop, although i know that&;s a conversation for another day lol). even if it&;s on a group-by-group basis, being able to &;blacklist&; users would be great.</li>
<li>sort &amp; filter groups i am a part of - it&;d be great to be able to see which groups have been active recently and which ones havent so that i can leave the old ones that dont get any use anymore</li>
<li>polls - just would be nice to let people vote on things.</li>
<li>let me change the ping hashtag thing for my group - there&;s probably some kind of backend code reason for this, but would be a good QoL improvement. not vital, but especially could see it being useful if someone changes their username and had their username in their tag (for example, my cw group is # boocw, but if i changed my username... that would be confusing lol)</li>
<li>improved discoverability - not sure what a good solution would be here, but would be nice if there was a better way to browse groups. maybe tagging them? like, we could have a CW tag for groups related to CWs, an ART tag for groups related to art, a commissions tag, a social tag, a battle tag, etc. etc. i think this would increase the number of people talking and making friends and generally being social within groups.</li>
<li>don&;t let people spy on me in my private groups - i think this is still a thing, but i used to go into ppl&;s post history to see if they were slotting on cws i wanted in their private groups before they released the item. groups i wasn&;t a part of. i obviously couldn&;t access the full forum thread, but i could read individual posts by specific users by looking at their post history. this is kinda lame, especially if you&;re trying to have private conversations in private groups.</li>
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<p>i know that a lot of ppl use discord instead of subeta, and probably for a lot of reasons, but i do like the idea of getting more activity on the forums by improving the functionality of the forums &amp; forum groups. i&;ve used both discord and the forums. i do like the idea of having a forum group chat functionality as i could definitely see myself transitioning to using this instead of discord for the handful of things that i do on discord, and i think there are opportunities specifically in cws to further integrate forums and forum groups into this process, but here are some thoughts i have about discord vs. forums (not specifically the forum GROUPS, but they&;re pretty intertwined and also i just am trying to give my perspective so that yall [the problem solvers :) ] can turn it into magic or something!)
benefits to discord: </p>
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<li>i don&;t have to host images externally - i&;m not sure if this is something subeta can feasibly solve, but i just copy/paste an image into discord and there it is. i don&;t have to go to imgur and host it there to be able to show ppl the image like i do on the forums.</li>
<li>WYSIWYG editor - i can just CTRL+B on my keyboard to bold stuff, CTRL+U to underline, etc. much easier than typing the BB code, but this is a small thing.</li>
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<p>anyway, these are just my initial thoughts. i&;ll come back if i have more thoughts but im very in favor of updating forum groups!

thank you!!!! this is great, I've got some thoughts

  1. Totally fair, you should be able to remove people without them getting notified. Will add!
  2. I'm doing this!
  3. Hmmm.... someone being blocked by / blocking an admin of the group should make it not possible for them to join, maybe I'll make that a new setting (it's very easy to add new settings now)
  4. working on this!
  5. polls are going to be an actually working part of the new forum system (which these new groups are part of, from the ground up!) so they should carry over just fine
  6. yeah, the difficulty is just that it'd stop working if you have it pinged anywhere, we wouldn't be able to go through posts / comments / etc and make the hashtag update. no other coding issue, just that it'd make a lot of ugly old hashtags everywhere
  7. yes! i want to make them easier to make, easier to tag and make clear what they're for, and easier to find the ones you should be in.
  8. :( yes, completely agree. with the new forums each forum, topic and post have "gates" for who can see them, and should be a lot less prone to showing up around the site in places they shouldn't. it's a completely broken system now, it should be much much much better

1 & 2: ✨ both done! ✨ the forums/news/etc are getting a WYSIWYG bbcode editor, with those same keyboard shortcuts. And, if you drag an image (up to a certain size, obviously) into the editor, it'll upload to our free image hosting (within reason). Very excited to actually be able to post images on the forums again :P

I really want to do some work on events in general and I think you've given me the push here to make it so that they don't just group by category, but also stack on top of each other for events from the same source and can be expanded. That'd be a HUGE improvement, and is possible with the new system. Thank you!

Yeah, this is largely about improving the whole "communication" across the site, starting with forums (and groups) and extending to sMail and profile/news comments. The same pinging mechanism will be used across all of them, for example (and the editor mentioned above). All existing sMail will likely be made read-only (I need to write a forum post about smail, of all of the terrible things I've done, it's probably the worst) with the ability to look at it.

excuse me, I believe you mean the old CULT system 😭 why couldn't i just name things normal. What kind of customization would you want to be able to do? Something like the notepad widget, where you can just write whatever, and use it as a kind of place to keep updated, or with separate pages or ...

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Sep 18, 2024 1 year ago
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I would love to have a gallery and shop for the forum group! That way we don't have to use a personal one for Forum Group purposes. The shop would work like regular shops, but all the money would go into the group's bank when withdrawn instead of to your on-hand amount; while the gallery can work to display prizes for Group events/activities and giveaways :D

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Sep 18, 2024 1 year ago
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Just like there is subscribe to threads to see when posted on, I wish there was unsubscribe that would mean any pings to my groups from that thread would be suppressed. There's been giveaway threads where I got like five-fifteen pings a day for weeks on end and I got super sick of constant pings from that thread, would love to be able to block those when really not interested.

Using emoji in forums by actually typing the emoji is my biggest wish for forums.

Sep 18, 2024 1 year ago
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B3AST

Personally I feel like private forums has taken a lot away from the activity of general forums, whilst private forums do have their perks, I think it makes the site more insular and it's harder for a newer user to break into the community since a lot of site activity is hidden behind private forums.

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Sep 18, 2024 1 year ago Official
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I completely understand feeling that way. However, one of my goals is to make the "public" (which is the majority) groups more present on the home page of the forums, even if you aren't part of the group. For example, a trending topic in a completely public group might show up in recent topics or posts, pushing folks to join to chat on those topics.

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Sep 18, 2024 1 year ago
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1 &amp; 2: ✨ both done! ✨
abridged your post but... THIS IS AWESOME! i'm super excited to see all the new stuff!!

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Sep 19, 2024 1 year ago
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LOL i could not for the life of me remember if it was cults or guilds so i just went with the more neutral word. i should have known it would be cults :P
the notepad widget is a good comparison! just a blank space for some text or code. a better way to explain what i mean is closest to a home page. so like rn we have the group name, description, members, and what's in the bank. i meant it as a separate page (or even a few!), but even just an enhanced description editor could achieve this/some sort of widget. groups could use it to advertise exactly what the group is or even just as a hub for their members, putting upcoming events and the like in it.

idk if that makes sense, just let me know if not :) i can draw up a sketch to show some example ideas if you want

also, while i've got your attention, thank you so much for all the upkeep happening! i love seeing subeta users provide feedback and changes happening <3 i'm especially excited for kumos

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Sep 19, 2024 1 year ago
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- Ping log: A page that lists all of the pings to the group that have happened, where you can click on the topic/post/location

Is this going to be built in a way that having a long list isn't going to hurt the site or server? Is this going to available to everyone in the group? We use forum groups to making biting easier during Survival, so there's a lot of groups (one for each strain) getting pinged hundreds of times each Survival. It sounds useful overall but I would like to make sure that the bite groups don't break the site because their ping logs are going to be massive.

As for other features, I remember wanting a bank log but I don't know how useful that would be to everyone. Some people left some a few million in the banks in the bite groups before and because I didn't know who that could have been, I couldn't ask if they meant to do that. They weren't admins so they couldn't take it back if it was a weird mistake.

I also think the shared items thing could be useful for in-group giveaways. I have a category in my vault for this but if I could just have those items saved in a group instead (so that all my CSC cards don't go to the giveaway category) and everybody in the group could see what is up for a giveaway, that would be amazing.

ALSO can we have a bigger file size for logos? It's tedious to play the crop game until it's finally small enough to upload.

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Sep 19, 2024 1 year ago
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I would like the most current post to be on page one and not always having to go to the last page to read the most current posts.


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Sep 19, 2024 1 year ago
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This is an example of a forum related page that could work better: This type page is so useful in trying to connect back with a group but the bottom "forums, + create new forum" doesn't seem to work right.

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Sep 19, 2024 1 year ago
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Why does it seem like every time something like this comes up, server strain comes to the party and promptly crashes it. I want server stability with what we have, not with things that could ultimately ruin a lot of things for a lot of people.

A reopening of moderation positions would also be a good place to start, I think. Or at least, dare I say, when was here on a coding position, there weren't so many severe server hiccups. I think it's safe to say that the wardrobe layering thing is kind of a moot point at this time because it's been how many years of a new wardrobe beta and we're still (seemingly) in the beginning stages of that. Everyone's used to having whatever amount of items on their HA and it hasn't broken the site yet.

Those are forum/site related things. Now, on the actual topic of the groups...

Doing away with the +20 ping notifications would be great and a ping history would be as well, if they aren't already things. Especially during massive events like Survival or Masquerade. I left quite a few groups over the sheer number of pings that I'd get. I don't mind helping out, I really don't, especially when I know how it is to be passed over in site-wide events but the sheer flood of pings makes it hard to catch up.

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Sep 20, 2024 1 year ago
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When "Move Topic" broke it was a nightmare for We use several forum groups to coordinate, and losing the ability to move useful information out of our work groups into our social group (or from the Menu group to the Generic ping group, etc etc...) was a loss we've been awkwardly working around ever since.

I know it was removed for a reason, but it seems like there must be some way to give thread movement back to group mods (maybe with an approval step from the receiving Group or something?) without compromising privacy for public/site forums, surely...?

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Sep 20, 2024 1 year ago
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I totally agree! Multiple forum pings for one CW release is tiresome.

Sep 20, 2024 1 year ago
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Yeah, would be nice to have pings able to be toggled on and off without loosing being part of that forum group. (If that is already a function, I'd like it more clear as I've not heard of it, ngl)

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Sep 21, 2024 1 year ago
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A way to change the owner of the group, through the years, some left or some sadly passed away, but if I&;m not wrong it&;s currently impossible to change the owner.

There are CWs you can't buy if you're not a member of a group that nobody can join because the owner is no longer here.

Private forums have many uses that have nothing to do with socialising and making new friends.

CW releasers who do private/exclusive items can use them to arrange sales.

I don't do those types of items, but I sometimes want feedback on potential releases that comes from the people who actually buy and like the kinds of things I like to make: exotic pets, anthro helper items, and fancy formal clothes from eras long past or far in the future.

I have a private group that only I am a member of that I use to organise my Subeta activities. It has posts for holidays where I can list all the flower/kiss/dance/tot links for all my friends by using the code, since visiting profile pages doesn't help when people have fancy layouts that hide that stuff, and also keep track of the contests I've entered. You miss nothing by not being able to see these posts (or not spying on them under the current situation) except possibly surprises on Lumi.

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I think it&;s safe to say that the wardrobe layering thing is kind of a moot point at this time because it&;s been how many years of a new wardrobe beta and we&;re still (seemingly) in the beginning stages of that. Everyone&;s used to having whatever amount of items on their HA and it hasn&;t broken the site yet..

I'd cry buckets if I couldn't layer massive amounts of items on my avatar and so would a lot of the CW/HA people.

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