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Jan 18, 2022 4 years ago
DefJamRecords
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Slightly off topic, But you mentioned the amount of offers you’ve turned down to purchase the site etc. essentially with plans on increasing the monetary flow/profitability.

Not expecting a response, but would implemented a system that generated more profit help any of these issues your team is facing? If only 80% of people are purchasing CSC it seems like creating more revenue via ads, higher rewards for csc purchases, whatever idk, should aid in that?

Maybe it’s not a terrible idea.

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Jan 18, 2022 4 years ago
Sopheroo
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Hyacinthe

"This isn't going to change, however I do recommend joining the discord, everyone is very lovely in there"

That's good advice to give. The link is a little subtle, but at least it's there (and I still would like to see it on the right side of the news page, but any progress is good progress)

While you and I both know you're right when you say everyone in the Discord is lovely, I'm personally not fond of bigger discord channels. At this point, I'm more advocating for accessibility in general, rather than things that specifically cater to me.

I can accept that I'm missing out on important intel, as long as I feel like the intel is properly linked. If it's on site; good!

Plus, you know I'm as lovely as a cockroach infestation anyway. ;)

Jan 18, 2022 4 years ago
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There is a link at the bottom of the page titled "Discord", if you click it, it&;ll open up the discord.
I had to double check, because I saw the Tweeter, Facebook and Tumblr buttons, but didn't see one for discord... had to manually search for discord to see it was a link (just like you said). However, it could be beneficial to maybe have the discord button in there too?

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Jan 18, 2022 4 years ago Official
Keith
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<p>&quot;This isn&;t going to change, however I do recommend joining the discord, everyone is very lovely in there&quot;</p>
<p>That&;s good advice to give. The link is a little subtle, but at least it&;s there (and I still would like to see it on the right side of the news page, but any progress is good progress)</p>
<p>While you and I both know you&;re right when you say everyone in the Discord is lovely, I&;m personally not fond of bigger discord channels. At this point, I&;m more advocating for accessibility in general, rather than things that specifically cater to me.</p>
<p>I can accept that I&;m missing out on important intel, as long as I feel like the intel is properly linked. If it&;s on site; good!</p>
<p>Plus, you know I&;m as lovely as a cockroach infestation anyway. ;)

I think what you're missing here is that there is no important intel on the discord that doesn't make it to the main site. There are status updates that make it here, there are conversations that ... are conversations and don't happen on the site anyway, but the result of those make it to the site.

I'm really just not sure where this FOMO from the discord is coming from. The forums have been quiet for 5 years.

I don't think there is much more "wealth" to extract from Subeta, outside of being exploitative. I don't want to increase the price of things in the cash shop, subscriptions, or the value of items, because that goes against what I've built Subeta to be. There are plenty of sites (especially now with the web3 craze!) that are built in the way that you're suggesting, Subeta just isn't going to be one of them :)

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Jan 18, 2022 4 years ago
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It's less FOMO and more wanting to avoid past mistakes. There had been times where information was said on Facebook/Twitter/IRC and only made it to the site because users pointed out that it was said off-site.

That wasn't done out of staff's malice, but simply because staff forgot to mention it on site. Mistakes happen, after all.

That's why I'm more vocal about that kind of thing being said in the news, or in the announcement forum. While there hasn't been any incident lately, it did happen in the past.

B'sides, I might have misheard, but haven't you said you wanted to bring back more activity in the forums anyway. Surely using them to push more forward discussion couldn't hurt.

Jan 18, 2022 4 years ago
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I don&;t think there is much more &quot;wealth&quot; to extract from Subeta, outside of being exploitative. I don&;t want to increase the price of things in the cash shop, subscriptions, or the value of items, because that goes against what I&;ve built Subeta to be. There are plenty of sites (especially now with the web3 craze!) that are built in the way that you&;re suggesting, Subeta just isn&;t going to be one of them :)

Makes sense, the anti-exploitative ideology you’ve adopted and stuck to is rare but should probably garner more attention and appreciation than it has (I’ve never seen anyone talk about it).

Since the player base is largely invested in this game, increasing rewards for spending and ad space wouldn’t deter many people. Pretty impressive you’ve stood against it regardless.

Sending an email about Java programming too.

Lastly, (since there’s a line of communication right now) this is probably a question for , but are there plans to increase the player base? (Not directed at but just if anyone happens to see this and knows)

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Jan 27, 2022 4 years ago
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Keith — Yesterday at 1:43 PM
hiii everyone, i have a few questions for you:</p>
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<li>What is your favorite challenger mechanic?</li>
<li>Do you consider any of the battles that you do fun?</li>
<li>If you could battle other players, would you?

I think posts like this is where the "FOMO" factor comes from. I'd agree there's really nothing of value here and anything that comes from it will be on the site, but when limited battle activity happens it is nice to actually have the opportunity to give input.

It doesn't take much time to expand it and do something like this with a simple ping. https://subeta.net/forums.php/gotopost/65830493

Again....nothing major but it doesn't take much time or effort and the user base appreciates it.

It's the small posts that you find out after the fact where that information may have been useful. I really only battle so unfortunately that's the main items I notice and this isn't intended to call out the BA's

1.) A Gelatin war is coming this winter. Add to the Front page? I unfrotunately missed the one 2 years ago so its nice to not have to just know ones coming. 2.) The contents of the godly fanciful box. That could have easily been put in the corresponding news post since it went public.

Jan 27, 2022 4 years ago Official
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Yup, I was looking for particular feedback in the moment while there were people online, and taking that to create the longer form threads on the site that I'll be doing, looking for more targeted & long form feedback. No one missed anything by not being in the discord (especially because you helpfully cross posted to the site) and nothing changed on the site based on that feedback.

This is how we're going to continue using the discord, and having conversations in different places with different users. I do not intend to cross post every comment or question I make on discord, and if you are expecting that after this thread you're going to be incredibly disappointed.

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Jan 27, 2022 4 years ago
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NVLB

Hey .

Earlier in the thread you had this to say:

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And again, my email for anyone interested in providing programming support (javascript or PHP) is <a href="mailto:keith.net">keith.net</a>. Or product support, or if you think you have a skill that would make the site better, my email is open. Even just a few hours here and there fixing up small site bugs can help!

Are you still looking for people in this capacity? I don't know everybody on Staff and what their programming abilities are, but it might be worth putting this message in more areas of the site if you are looking for some help, or at least somewhere that isn't going to get drowned out like on the Admin Posts. I hit the 'Contact Us' on accident and I was kind of surprised that something like this wasn't in it (of course, I don't think that the page gets a lot of traffic but still, at least it's somewhere permanent).

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Jan 27, 2022 4 years ago Official
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I'm working on a more permanent contractor plan for programmers, so have put off announcing that in a larger capacity :)

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Jan 27, 2022 4 years ago
Avel
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NVLB

Ah, okay! I have to admit I was a little worried when I saw that Bug was stepping down but good to know you have something in the works.

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Feb 8, 2022 4 years ago
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We shouldn't have to join other sources (discord, facebook, etc.), to stay updated, everything posted externally should also be on-site - That would help with communication massively.

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