We've been playing with this recently, we've really come this close to closing the pawn shop a lot recently, and even considered it after the most recent sale.

I like the idea of being able to sell them back to the site and us holding them to use in the future. I'd love more input / ideas from the community on how we could use them creatively!

We've been collecting the pawn shop items that are older than 6 months internally and might toss them into a chance box / vending machine sometime in the future, but that hasn't been decided.

Also: I'd love to lower the prices, it's something that we've also talked about a lot about lately. Unfortunately for us we've moved a lot of our budget to CWs over the past two years so lowering the price is really dangerous for us because if it doesn't go well or we don't make up the middle ground with increased submissions, we could be in a really sticky situation.

I'd love for us to be able to facilitate easier sharing between creators in whatever way we can, as well!

So, question surrounding the pawn shop. I know that it makes it easy to sell your items (aka get some CSC when you need it), would you want it removed entirely so you can't sell to it, or remove the buying part and keep the selling part?

We're actually still getting a pretty nice chunk of new users every week, they just aren't vocal, and we haven't done a great job of onboarding people to things like the forums or custom wearables in general.

We've got some new systems planned for 2017 that hopefully resolve a lot of that (+ new layout that simplifies and reigns in years of just piling things on top of each other)

We aren't going to allow selling for CSC in user shops. We actually built this out and it's entirely functional, but we just don't think it's good for Subeta, the game. If people could price anything in CSC, that's what they'll price things in and suddenly no one will be taking sP for anything. :/

Then that takes away from the second-hand market of cash shop items (and CWs to a lesser degree) being purchasable by sP, and makes them impossible to get that way :/

Then we run into issues with people making new accounts just for the CSC. Neopets got around this by making it so that CS items are account bound.

We considered this briefly when we made the v3 wardrobe, we had the ability to make items irremovable so if you put it there it was stuck there, and toyed with the idea of giving a discount on CW/CS items if you did that so that you couldn't sell them in the future. It didn't pan out.

Okay, I have some notes!

1. CSC=>SP. This is so hard, and something I really wish that we could regulate, but we can't. We can't allow you to sell items (and if we did it'd be JUST custom wearables) for CSC because we need there to be a market for sP to buy those items, otherwise why is anyone bothering to earn sP? The site becomes pay to play at that point.
2. We're going to get rid of purchasing from the pawn shop. I think having sales by the quarter might be nice.
3. I'm going to talk to about lowering the number of items required for a batch to 5 items, and getting a checkbox for recolors to make her job (and yours) easier - including possibly lowering the price on recolored pieces.

Artists on this thread who maybe don't have time to put together a tutorial for CWs/CIs because of money or just not wanting to do something for free - I'm absolutely happy to reimburse with CSC/my soul for time spent making helpful Subeta stuff. It's obviously hugely beneficial to the community. Get at me 👋.

Update on some of my other points from earlier, things that are currently being moved into place:

1. Making a checkbox for you to mark that an item is a recolor. There is no immediate change for you except that this will make the process easier for and down the road we can show items that are recolors in our new...
2. Custom wearable database. This will be a page with filters like the wardrobe / pawn shop page, where you can drill down. Also filter by items in custom wearable shops, your wishlist, friends wishlists (GA feature? will be database intensive), and...
3. User shops. We're making it so that any user can make an item that is a custom wearable priced in CSC instead of sP. These will show up in the shop search.

And finally, we're reducing the number of items required for the first batch to 6 items.

Just wanted to give everyone an update that I'm working on the custom wearable page! very, very, very basic version which just lets you select the layer. It does not currently include pages, but it's built in so it won't be that difficult to add in.

All of the other sorting options from the new wardrobe are coming + being able to see if an item is in user shops (for sP or CSC) + some other information. What I want to know from you is what do you want to see included in the panel with the items which right now is just the CI/wearable image/name.

Thanks!

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Also we should have a testing version of pricing / buying with CSC in user shops soon, which will be reflected on this page ;)

Whoops, that should be fixed. Shoot me a message and let me know which item was purchased, I can get it reset on their end (add one to the shop) and refund your csc.

Yeah, they'll be added back tomorrow once I remove the buy link and fix the actual CW shops to add a verification that they can be purchased at that stage.

If you click an item and then click buy, it'll ask for the password.

I'm going to make a note of items on the page, obviously, that are locked and require a password, though.

Locked items have made their way back, as well as items with 0 in stock so that you can at least see them :)

I'll be adding filters for them soon, adding in pagination, and other filters from the wardrobe (name, ordering etc)

I'm still working on this :)! here is an updated version with pages, and name searching!

Lots of work left to do, and I know there is the bug where hovers are weird past other pages / layer sorting, I'm working on that as well.

We're still working on the other CW stuff on our end (getting CSC shop purchasing is taking longer than anticipated) and should have some updates soon :)

up next for the cw updates is csc pricing in user shops, and it's all currently live on my dev:

http://grace.dev.subeta.net/user_shops.php

please have a look and let me know any feedback you might have!

notes: at this time, only r200 items can be priced with csc. the autopricer will only price items with sp. it will ignore items that are currently priced for csc in your shop, but it will not ignore r200 items that are priced with sp or unpriced. in the event that an item is in user shops with both sp and csc prices, their order in the shop search will be based on the current lowest price of csc cards in user shops. sp and csc shop tills are separate, so you can withdraw csc without jeopardizing that one shop till achievement.

items you price for csc on my dev will not show up priced for sp on the main site, don't worry!

i am actually working on decluttering the items page a bit along with the other changes i'm implementing (which will be all be coming out together within a month or two in a big batch)! biggest thing for that is items you can't do anything with will no longer show on that page. direct to cs items already didn't show, and i've already updated that to include items that you've moved to the cash shop as well as items you don't have any batches left to sell. batch-limited items that you're sold out of in the cash shop won't show up anymore, either. the idea of an archives page is nice, too, as well as being able to manually move items there that you're simply done with. ( )

anyway on to what i was actually coming here to post about, i've also done a lot of work on the cw database that started, and i wanted to show it to you guys for feedback.

1. it actually shows everything now, not just things that are available to buy in cw shops
2. more filters than just by layer and name
3. it doesn't make a new ajax call when you filter, the items are filtered via javascript to speed things up
4. it grabs all of the items now instead of just 1000, which slows down the initial loading time a lot. 😕
5. the hover bug was fixed
6. you can catch a sneak peek of another of the upcoming changes that keith has mentioned if you look for some of 's items ;)

iiii think that's basically it. the link may revert at times to the version keith has previously linked, because i'm doing all of this work in a different branch and i have been occasionally switching back to the main branch (which has none of these changes) to do other things! but i'm mostly on the branch with these changes for now. :)

http://grace.dev.subeta.net/custom_wearables.php

Wanna check back in to see how people are doing, some more of these things were implemented / changed 👀

Hi everyone, please check out this post!