Quests still give out items. Probably not all of them, but Pete definitely gave me some, Carl as well. I'm too lazy to check all of them now but it's not that bad, really.
All of this is done to help the economy of Subeta, which is quite important in the long run, btw. This is not done because Keith enjoys torturing us or anything like that, haha.
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I wish they would at least give us a heads up before tweaking quest prizes...questing is fun for me regardless but it would be nice know they're making/testing changes to a major part of the site before actually implementing anything. Just a common courtesy for the users :)
Ok so Pete and Library Quest are basically worthless now. Highest amount of SP I got from either since this change is a whopping 15k. -_-
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Just did the Library quests for today. Started with 400k and after all 10 quests I now have 439,000... a profit of under 40k. No idea how we're supposed to afford/save up for anything like this. I do not have time to play games and games don't give out a lot of SP either. Pretty unhappy with this.
I have to admit I've been pretty ok with sP return, lower than usual but still ok. In all honesty I'd rather get good, hmm no GREAT sP and no items, the sP is instant, items you have to wait to sell to get a return.
Either way I'll roll with it and see what pans out as it is what it is and Keith/Subeta get the final say.
I'm not quite done my quests but I've already packed away well over 4 million today, like I do just about every time I do quests. I usually make between 3 - 6 million not counting item rewards.
At first when I heard that the quests had been nuked I was really worried but... if I can still make that, things seem fine to me.
[edit] So I checked out Pete (never did Library, always found it a waste) and scrapped him from my line-up, and with Wizard, Saggi, Quentin, Carl, Cinthia, Maleria, and Cursed I put away 4.7 mil plus got a couple amulets to chuck in my shop and didn't even do all 15/15 quests each time because I never risk a quest that would be a loss.
I can understand the disappointment with items disappearing from most of the questions, but if you stop questing because you're going to have a hard time saving... don't, because the money is in it still.
I'm surprised to hear you got such a great payout. I used to make 4 mil a day from quests but after this change I am barely making 2 mil. That's a huge drop in income. -_-
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It could very well be good luck. I'll see tomorrow (well, for me tomorrow, I'm 3 hours behind) 'cause I don't feel like staying up to do another quest batch with the clock reset.
I actually prefer the quests without items. I hate pricing by hand and a GA is seldom worth it anymore.
Quests have been in a bad place for almost a year. They are really too good, to the point of trivialising almost all other means of earning. I've pretty much broken even on my recent spending by lazily doing Shinwa, Cursed, Saggi & Wizard quests every few days. The current iteration is unsustainable in the long run, imo, and one of the key factors in driving the CSC prices through the roof. Someone on the thread pointed out they're making 4m a day on quests. That's insane! Rares which I could flip for 50k a pop have recently sank below 10k and restocking hardly seems worth the effort, now. And that's without accounting for the change in price in real terms.
I'd definitely like some communication on the direction the changes, but I'm not bothered by them at the moment. You pretty much break even on items in, items out on quests atm and that's not healthy for the flow of goods in the economy.
Quests have been giving out TOO MUCH and it's directly negatively affecting the economy. Part of the reason CSC is so expensive right now? There's too much sP in the system. It deflates, becomes worth less, so you need more of it to buy the same things.
Everyone saying 'I want the sP over the items' is contributing to the problem. You want LESS sP being created, not MORE. You want the items, because you're receiving sP already in the system instead of creating new and deflating it even more.
Other than Saggi, no quest should give out more than 15k-20k imo. Items should be the ultimate reward - items that you would then sell.
inb4 'I won't be able to buy anything!' PRICES WILL DROP! As sP becomes worth more and people have less of it, they spend less and demand for an item drops. When demand drops, prices drop. It's basic economics, people.
No matter what in the end I object to losing sP on quests, I don't mind low sP as long as I get what I spend back but come on 804sP from Maleria when I spent over 30k seems a bit rude!
quests are such a waste of time now... looks like I'm only going to do drill, saggi and wiz =/
I do hope we'll get a notice when they're done messing with the quests. And maybe an explanation what was changed and why, though that might be too hopeful...
So now it's Cinthia, Cursed and Maleria that still only give out sP. I don't see the point in the Mori/Nori split up now, they both just give sP. What's the point?