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Jun 14, 2016 9 years ago
dele_ted
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I only mentioned the newbie guide because everyone above said people wouldn't stay, so personally I could care less if people stay. I /want/ them to, as maybe they'll be the people who help support the site, but they aren't. Most people who are willing to already know about the site, and are willing to spend money on the site.

Also, as I mentioned on the first page, more than HALF of the items are in shops for reasonable prices, there's a few which are hard to find, don't get me wrong.

I asked my friends that I go to school with for referrals, they were like "wtf is this, and I was just like, do it so I can get bank", and they did it for me. Obviously not everyone can do this, but that's how they work, you "refer your friends" to the site, whether they stay or not.

Jun 14, 2016 9 years ago
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Fartsie

I have no friends irl ha ha

I agree with on certain points. I really believe that the forum can be scary as hell for newbies. I offer free stuff/help sometimes and I've gotten a lot of love from new people. I was pleased to help them, but I think that there should be more for them. The site can be tricky to use. What about video tutorial? Staff could ask the userbase to help for little amount of free time/sP/CSC. Beyond that, I'd like to say kudos to for handing links and such in the intro & welcome forum! I obviously will never be able to get anything from the shop. I've refered one person??? and this person did not stay. I wouldn't be against removing the shop but that's just me.

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Jun 14, 2016 9 years ago
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As someone who has been looking for one of those referral items for MONTHS now with no luck, I really wish they would do something with the referrals to make it easier to obtain those items. I don't think items are the correct answer to getting people to play the site, or for getting people to find referrals. I've referred two people. Neither of them play on this site. I've tried to advertise on sites with no biters.

I like 's idea about using CSC and pet slots as better referral rewards. Not items that cost more than serious battlers' weapons, items that half the time are single use and wardrobe items that may just sit in the wardrobe once they are obtained.

Jun 15, 2016 9 years ago
Megu
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Endings

First, before I say anything further, I have to ask: Have you actually seen my guide? Have you actually read it?

I'm genuinely curious.

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Jun 15, 2016 9 years ago
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Crappy

Yes subeta needs you to advertise on your business cards. What I am so hoping for though is that they take Reya's suggestion and open another banner contest again. In which case you better enter and hopefully the prize is csc and some referral points.

Man I wish I were that lucky. I honestly didn't know we had a high score board for it. Which is wow because that means only 2 people on this site could of bought 1 of everything. And 11 could of bought one of every collection item not including wearable items or minions.

I feel like video tutorials are weird for a pet site. Who is going to narrate? I am down with subeta again revamping the new newbie thing they do. (Isn't it a tutorial like thing?) I also am totally supporting the idea of subeta doing welcome packages and the hinted small amount of csc per activeness on site.


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Jun 15, 2016 9 years ago
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Wuf

yup, so that just illustrates how difficult these items are to find.

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Crappy

I never argued they weren't. 😜 I just still don't see them taking out the items. Or maybe there should be like a recruitment-thon with site contests on how to make things better for newbies .etc with prizes of referral points.


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Jun 15, 2016 9 years ago
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I think this suggestion has two separate parts to it.

Part 1 - making the current items more attainable So this could be done by moving them out of the referral shop or by making points easier to come by. This part is important for the current users, but not so important to staff Even the sought after rewards that are in there right now aren't incentive enough for most people to try for referrals, or else there would be more of them out there. There are probably many users out there like me that only really know their family and don't have friends to refer, or don't want to out of embarassment or they just don't want them to be subeta with them. If things stay how they are now, these collection items will remain some of the most difficult to get on the site, which is against the spirit of the site because there is an effort to make sure all collections are completeable within reason.

Part 2 - making the referred user more likely to stay. This part should happen no matter what, even if part 1 doesn't happen at all. This part is important to staff because it results in a healthier site with more revenue.

Jun 15, 2016 9 years ago
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No, I haven't seen it, nor read it, so I could be wrong. When you're new, you can barley find anything, let alone a guide. I'd be more than happy to read it though.

Honestly, I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. This isn't directed to you anymore megu, so no need to take it personal.

SPOILER (click to toggle) The items are NOT hard to find, though they do take time. They DO exist. There ARE ways to get them already. I'm with who stated this on the second page, who stated
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The system is definitely fine as is in my opinion. It&;s nice to have some very expensive items that can really be earned by anyone.
Anyone can earn the items, as they aren't retired. I know some people may not have the resources to go out and buy a banned, or buy csc, or buy anything of that nature. That's why we have high paying quests, that's why we have shops, that's why we have everything so it can help you save to get these items. We don't need everything handed out for free, or reduced in price because people complain about them being "unobtainable", or "too hard to get", when they haven't even tried. Now, like I said, this isn't directed to anyone on this topic, like I said, it's a simple example.

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Part 2 - making the referred user more likely to stay. This part should happen no matter what, even if part 1 doesn&;t happen at all. This part is important to staff because it results in a healthier site with more revenue.
This is the point I was trying to make in earlier posts .

Jun 15, 2016 9 years ago
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Crappy

Just going to quote that on the 1st post.

I just went through the collection items so plushies, stickers or books. That is a total of 15 items, of which I only found 5 being available. With only 2 of them having multiples available for purchase the rest was a single one via trades. Wearables are easier to find because they aren't essentially one use items for collecting purposes because they can be removed and sold.


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Jun 15, 2016 9 years ago
Megu
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Newbie guide.

When Subeta introduced the community guidelines, they did link this at the bottom for people to see, it's also passed around the newbie forums. :)

I did this because the guides that were available just didn't explain things right and people needed a more in depth explanation to most things. I know it has helped a lot of users, New and old. I do welcome any suggestions on improvement or wording.

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Jun 20, 2016 9 years ago
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I never really liked the referral shop, it feels very much like "look at these items that I'll never get". And there a lot of nice items there too which makes it painful. I think that there needs to be a way to make it more encouraging for users to recommend their friends to the website rather than exclusive items (as it's also pretty difficult to get a friend on this site as I can imagine it seem very juvenile or different for most of them)

I really like the idea of using pet slots or other CSC perks as it seems more broad and less specific than items or the point revamp seems like good options. I really would like the items to be obtainable someday!

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