I had sort of assumed they misspoke when they said "on hand", noting that the post acknowledges current mechanics. But on a level of semantics, I agree, and I did initially catch that as well - if it were as easy as just shoveling my money into the vault, I'd be all over Sarah, and that wouldn't be fair at all.

By SP on hand, I mean the SP you have on your account.

That's what it means in accounting, the money you have on hand is any currency you have right now and can spend at this exact moment. I'm not sure if that is how you say it in English.

Also, I did Sarah's quests last week for the questathon, and I think I had an average payout of something like 6K or 7K. Keep in mind, that's not my pure profit, that's the reward I got. My profit was < 6K per quest.

Yet, I had Nori quests that gave me 120K profit.

TRUST ME, SARAH IS A NON-ISSUE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

She still gives put sP, so if people do both quests, it's even more sP into the system. Limiting people to only doing one of the two quests is not a nerf.

Btw pure profit is irrelevant to how much sP goes into the system unless you exclusively buy from npc shops.

The only people that can realistically do both quests in a single day are people that would be between 8 and 10 millions at the start of the day. That's a fraction of the population, and they would be limited to do 5 Sarah and 15 Saggi if they had a GA, 3 Sarah and 10 Saggi if they don't

The money added in the system by people now being able to do Sarah, will be counterbalanced by people that are no longer able to do Saggi, people with < 10M on hand.

Keep in mind, if you get over 150K profit, from 15 Sarah quests, you're lucky.

Unless you really want to work it and have a friend you trust. You give them your money, you do quests, you get your money back. I don't know how many people actually do this but the fact it can be done doesn't sit right with me.

People are already doing that right now for the achievements. Still doesn't make Sarah anywhere near threatening on the grand economic scale.

There is so little profit to be made with Sarah that it's not worth it. What is going to be dangerous is people lending themselves money to do Saggi. THAT'S WAY MORE PROBLEMATIC THAN SARAH

Didn't people hand their money over during questathon just now so they could get to Sarah? No one complained then, so even if people did that with the proposed changes, I don't think it hurts anything. Not everyone is going to do that. 2 or 3 people possibly. Definitely not me. I'm not handing over the sP I have in my vault just for an extra 200k. Hell, Sebastian might get me while I was moving sP and he'd take 10x that amount. So for the majority, I don't think it's worth it.

It's indeed not worth it.

what I did during the questathon was just spend all of my daily profits at 23:30 on wishlist things until I went back to 300K

What I'm saying would go both ways though, if you do Sarah's quests, you cannot do Saggi's. If you do Saggi's, you cannot do Sarah's. And I'm not talking about only if the changes you proposed happen, I'm talking about right now or as separate changes. They aren't going to eliminate Saggi, so might as well limit something that isn't working as it is intended to.

I'd love to see the proposed changes from the OP. I haven't done a single Sarah quest, partially because I didn't discover her when I first started (which was 6 months after I signed up) and by then I had already earned more than the max sP allotted. I am more likely to have less than 10 mil than less than 500k at one time. I would love to have an opportunity to do her quests without handing my sP over to a friend or spending it all. I wouldn't be in it for the profits either, just the achievement so if she only gave out 10k sP rewards I would have no issue with it.

Ah that makes more sense. I thought you meant the sP you have like.. not in your vault or shop till, which would make it incredibly easy to put everything in your vault to do Sarah.

I 100% agree with this suggestion then :P

Yes allow us "veterans/elite people" to do Sarah Quests. Also Saggi sucks currently. I am all in favor for the changes proposed.

I just did my Sarah quests, thanks to me dipping to 42K after buying my last MC pet slot.

On average, my profit was 7K/quest. That's 135K profit out of 15 quests, and some of these quests I barely broke even. The most profitable was a 18K profit.

That's not game-breaking.

not game breaking on its own, but if people are allowed to do both sets of quests, it's just extra sP into the system.

Instead of limiting the 35K coming in from Sarah, maybe limiting the 700K coming from Saggi would be wiser, because it's more damaging.

After the quest achievements, absolutely nobody is going to go through the hassle of sending their money to someone else to do Sarah. Absolutely nobody.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill. There are so so so so so so so so so many SP generators that should be culled and limited over Sarah's quests.

If people are allowed to do both, that POTENTIALLY is an extra 150k per person in the system. Potentially, not even guaranteed.

If it's implemented with the changes the OP has suggested - I think the sP going into the system will actually significantly decrease. This would allow fewer users access to Saggi on a daily basis, which then potentially means like 500k sP less entering the system. Or however much you can get from Saggi - he's been fluctuating so much I can't even ballpark anymore.

Totally support the OP on this - it makes excellent sense from a game-play perspective (as long as it was explained well on both Sarah and Saggi's quest pages).

You got 135k though? By having it by doing one quest or the other, Saggi is getting limited. I don't see why this is an issue for you unless you do both of the quests often enough. You can't just say Saggi is the issue, neef him, because a change would need to be done at all sources. Nerfing Saggi will just piss off a bunch of people, and right now it seems like the recent changes to Saggi are just deflating SR items. Doing both Sarah and Saggi is not something staff intended to happen regularly anyway. If people want to do her quests for the achievements, then it is a sacrifice they are making. Staff doesn't need to make these quests available to everyone. I had my 6 pets before the achievement for having only one pet came out.

It could also lead to people always having 10 mil on their account at all time so they can do Saggi instead of dipping below and then having 3 quests of Sarah to do. I think it promotes the extra sP hoarding more than anything

I still don't think the vast majority of people will be able to do both quests daily. The quests would still function as intended.

Just because there is a possibility that it can be worked around doesn't mean it's easy to do.

You could get the one pet achievement if you sent your pets to other people or briefly abandoned them - it's a challenge and most people wouldn't want to do it, but it's possible.

And just like that, this would be possible but it would be a challenge and most people wouldn't want to do it. Especially when the payoff is less than 200k. To me, 200k is not worth it in the slightest to move my sP around DAILY.

Couldn't do that without losing stats. That would be an extreme sacrifice from my point of view and it isn't worth it at all.

I don't necessarily think a lot of people do do both quests, but I don't think it should be possible anyway.

Again, people that are in a viable position of being able to do Saggi and Sarah in a single day have extremely high odds of being in the 5 to 10M gap. That's where the 35K came from, 7K profit X 5 quests = 35K