I thought the problem is really the hoarders. If everybody is selling an item for around 5k (for example) and that a hoarder comes up with 300 of the same item for 1k each, then it kills the economy. Everybody is forced to undercut the hoarder or their items will never sell.

The real undercutting problem is that some users cut prices on really expensive items so that they can quickly grab the items that people autoprice, then they resell them for massive profit, which is abuse of a broken system. Staff isn't going to do anything, especially not over 2k sp. I mean, the situation I mentioned seriously pisses me off, but 2k? Nah. People who undercut by millions just because though? That's just dumb on their part.

People who price random stuff at 1 sP really bug me. I actually have bookmarked a few shops that I know do this so I can buy up their 1 sP items before other people autoprice to it. I've seen a few people price like that in an attempt to help out other players by essentially giving out free stuff, but that's almost always new players who don't understand the Subeta economy yet. The worst kind of people are the ones who abuse autopricing by putting an expensive item in their shop and pricing it for cheap, then buying up the items that were autopriced to that low amount. People like that are just scummy.

Whenever I see items going for absurdly cheap (like, 100-200 sP), I buy up all of that item up to 600 sP, often higher. It's great fodder for the fragmentizer, and it helps keep prices from completely crashing.

Sometimes an items just not worth what the lowest price in shops is, especially on the more expensive items. In general though, i agree that it just doesn't make sense in undercutting by 40% of the value of an item to try and sell it faster. most of those items are going to sell regardless of the price as long as it's at the top of the list.

I've always been worried about people doing what everyone else is saying and pricing expensive items low and then buying them up as they get autopriced, so to counterattack this, I tend to stock expensive items in their own section of my shop. to find them I just control+f search for "lowest: 0" on each page of my shop change the category for each one. takes about 5 mins with 30+ pages the first time, and after that you just pay attention to what goes in to your shop. Then after I auto price i just search that section of my shop, scroll through real quick to make sure nothing is out of whack. I will say that it has not happened to me once, and I'm very surprised to hear that it has, even if i was already worried about it. I can say that I have seen new items rapidly deflate, as they should, which certainly isn't from anything malicious. I'll also say that I've lost out on more sP from missing a 0 than anything else, for sure.

honestly "undercutting" (although i don't really feel like that term applies) by a couple thousand sP isn't really that big of a deal imo, even though it does indeed add up when multiplied by hundreds or even thousands of items.

and yes, i absolutely understand that if an item has been sitting in a shop for 15 mil for months with no sign of anyone considering buying it, it is perfectly reasonable for another seller to say, "fuck it, i want to sell NOW, clearly this item isn't actually worth what that person is selling it for because no one is willing to pay that much, i'm going to price mine way lower" and price their item at, say, 5 mil. that's fine, that's a reasonable response to the fact that the artificial value someone else has set for an item doesn't accurately reflect how much buyers are willing to actually pay for it.

but when an item sells consistently for a fairly steady price (CSC, for instance), and someone decides to undercut by a significant amount in order to artificially deflate the price, that's frustrating. so currently a 100 credit gift card sells for ~5.5 mil. that's the current going rate. it's a bit high in my opinion and others have certainly complained about it, but that's what it's selling for - and it is selling as far as i can tell. now let's say someone who has a lot of CSC saved up decides to buy a bunch of 100 credit gift cards from the cash shop, then put them in their user shop, but decides to price them at 2 mil for a quick buck. THAT is obnoxious. yes, it's nice for valuable items to be cheaper and more accessible, and if their reasoning for doing so is not simply to sell sell sell as fast as possible but to maybe help regulate the price and bring it back down to what they consider reasonable… well, that can be nice. but 2 mil is REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY less than the going rate, and it screws over the other sellers because now they have the option of either buying all those CSC cards for 2 mil each (which can add up to quite a bit when it's just a few people trying to get them all out of the system) and reselling them for 5.5 mil each, or they can lower their prices and lose out on a lot of profit.

now, in the case of CSC, i do feel like there should be some deflation, but certainly not a price reduction of over 60 percent! but anyway, that's a discussion for another day.

If things are not selling I lower the price. Just dropped a Flashback Wild One jacket to 5 mil cause it's nearly a year old in the shop, and there's several in trades for that price. Probably still won't sell, some things are just way overpriced. I don't call that undercutting, more like a white elephant sale.