I really think you missed the entire point of the suggestion. It's not about letting a bunch of people profit off the death of someone, or preventing stuff from "going to waste."

The purpose was for there to be a way to ensure meaningful items made it to certain people.

This, pretty much. Assuming that they should go in the DC or pawn shop is the grossest thing I have ever read.

I think it was an actual suggestion.

PLEASE TELL ME IT WAS HYPERBOLE OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW I TRUST YOU.

Because I want none of the things to do with someone who wants my things after I die, even if I don't know them.

Seriously, mfw, this website.

yeah. I'm pretty sure it was an actual suggestion :(

Not only this, but lawyers will tell you outright that it's not very feasible to do with most of your real life possessions- even the ones of value, like cars, since they're something that's constantly changing for most people. Most times your stuff just gets lumped in with your money, so when it's divided, that's when the fights start.

Many users change their items and pets constantly and it would be very difficult to keep up with who gets what on Subeta as well, even if you broke it down into collections. Pets are the most important thing to me, but most of my friends would be hard-pressed to suddenly find room for one or two, much less 47 of them. I also wouldn't expect them to keep 5-10 copies of my private cws, but I don't really even want to think about all the drama that would come along with someone selling or adopting out a deceased user's willed items/pets.

I'm pretty certain it would also not be possible to include your Subeta items in a real living will, since on the off chance that your lawyer would see pixels as something legit, we still technically own nothing on our accounts- Keith does.

It hurts to think about anything that you work hard for wasting away and going unappreciated after you're gone, but any real friend isn't going to see your wardrobe or your battle pet as the real loss.

i think you guys might be talking about the ideas i suggested?

not sure because i specifically avoided mentioning the DC/pawn shop since that eliminates the idea of random dissemination between users, but it might leave a similar impression on someone just skimming by.

personally, i'd rather someone else be able to enjoy my items since i don't have any friends who regularly use subeta, so there's no one for me to give things to. so that's why i suggested those as alternatives/in addition to having all an account's items sent to one person. my items make me happy, so i don't see why they can't make someone else happy if subeta still exists when i die.

no, that's not what I was referring to :)

this so much

It can actually be really nice to be able to go look at a friend's account after they have passed and see their pets, and galleries, and such. And remember all the excitement and conversations you had with them when they got the pet, or see an item you gave them for a TC, or remember some silly joke you made about a piece of artwork they have on a profile. Sometimes it's just too hard, but sometimes it's wonderful to still have that piece of them here. Subeta is very unique in that sense, that it really captures so much of a person's creativity and soul and personality in one place. Having it all stay on their account... it means a lot. I know that's hard to understand if you haven't lost a close friend who you knew here on Subeta, but sometimes it's almost magical to be able to go visit little pieces of your relationship with them.

I think this is a nice idea in theory, but in practice it would become HUGELY complicated for staff to honor. I think it really should be left up to the individual user to give away or donate their items as they see fit while they are still able to use the site. If one user thinks it is very important that another user receives xyz items, they should send those items to that friend when they are able to do so.

Dumping hundreds of thousands of items into some sort of donation pool from deceased users' accounts seems really tasteless and I would (personally) be extremely uncomfortable using a feature like that. Current users SHOULD NOT profit from deceased users.

I think what staff is currently doing for deceased users (and by extension, their friends) is a very kind gesture, but asking them to be responsible for distributing items/pets/etc. is a bit much.

a)Firstly, for the site to even do this would just be in extremely bad taste.

b) I DO NOT want the items of a deceased person because it was their items, and it would honestly just make me extremely uncomfortable to know that I was profiting even marginally off a person's death.

As for designating someone to have access to the account and give away the items of a deceased person on site I don't think this is going to work well. It opens up avenues for abuse and while yes, the assumption is made that family members will carry out the deceased wishes that's not always the case. It's pretty common for family feuds to occur after a person's death especially when it comes to dividing possessions and who gets them.

Also, in general I don't really expect family members to necessarily want to come on and spend their time giving away items when it's likely that the bulk and majority of their time will probably be taken up arranging the funeral. With all the stuff that goes on after a person is deceased, dividing up property, arranging a funeral I'm guessing in the grand scheme of things that a virtual reality site isn't going to honestly seem that important, if at all honestly.

Honestly, I think the way subeta is doing it now is perfectly fine. If a person while they're still living wishes to divide up items and give them away before their death that's fine, but expecting family members who have no relation to the site to do it is probably asking a bit too much. Likewise, asking staff to do it probably isn't the answer as well because it's not necessarily staff's job to spend time determining who gets what in the event of a subeta users's death. It also opens up a whole new can of worms over who gets what, why someone gets something over another person, what happens if the person who takes the item/pet doesn't keep that pet, pets in the long run, etc...

The way it is now the account stands as a permanent memorial and I admit I like that. It's a permanent fixture that serves as a memorial of the person and celebrates who they were while they were still alive and that's plenty fine.

Exactly this. Plus, from the standpoint of having two deceased subeta friends that I was very connected to, this suggestion bothers me to my gut. I just can't support this. It makes my stomach churn because all I gather from this is people wanting to profit from their items. No thanks.

Yeah, while it's a kind thought that some would rather people enjoy your stuff after they're gone, it's also important to realize that the majority of people who aren't assholes who just want to acquire would feel very upset/bothered by receiving the items of someone who passed when they didn't even know them. If I randomly got an item from a user I didn't know and found out it was being distributed because a user had passed on, I would immediately delete it. Sorry, but I've known a lot of people who have died and death is something I worry about a lot and I just don't really want that on my conscience/mind that I'm now responsible for an item that was probably dear to someone. It would make me sick from overthinking about it.

I would leave living wills up to a close friend or a lawyer imo. It's a nice thought but it's expecting way too much and staff would have to be assigned to essentially deal with people's passing as frequently as they happened. Pretty certain they didn't sign up for that, without meaning to sound callous. Expecting them to more or less be funeral directors and orchestrate what happens after someone's death on a pet site is rather trying for everyone involved imo. Subeta's as important to me as the next person but I would never think that was a fair thing to put on other people.

I think that what they're doing now is fine. They don't delete accounts, they don't delete usernames, they don't delete pets, everything stays in tact. They treat the situation with a lot more respect than most websites do. I understand it's hard to lose a friend and you want to stay as close to them as possible, but really, this just isn't feasible as an added feature to the site. Even if you can't see the items that your friend had, I'd say that leaving them with their account keeps you closer to them and the life they had while they were alive, and the time they spent on Subeta.

Forgive me if any of this sounds insensitive, it's super late here but I'm just rather uncomfortable with any of this becoming a permanent feature of the site for multiple reasons.

No. This is not appropriate for a pet site, or any website. I understand that those who have lost friends here might be grieving in their own ways, but the profile and pets stay there, nothing goes anywhere. If you want something like that done, you should speak to your friends or family, so that they can log in and do that sort of thing for you.

Staff have already been more than generous by offering to preserve the usernames and profiles of users who have passed. There's no reason to ask them for more.

Yeah no, I don't like this either.

I don't want my stuff to go to random nobodies.