it comes from this collection, and there's a few for sale?

Ohh thank you! A friend told me it drops a random item from the collection from there. I assume they were wrong? I shall buy one.

you should be able to choose what you want from that one. it's the really really old ones that are random, i think?

You were right! Thanks so much! <3

np!! glad i could help c:

Would it be possible to get some of the more powerful retired battle items such as Hydragellos Maniacal Core and Ancestral Unrest in the Antique Shop or Crystal Shop? It would be nice if they were at least accessible to other players, even if they're difficult to get. (I'm thinking prices in the billions, at the levels of Sword of the Seven Seas and Wrath of Kahaleitzli.)

Having them as a one-time availability just creates a "rich-get-richer" effect, in that the only people who will obtain these items are the hardcore battlers who have been playing since day one, and those people are the least incentivized to sell them. People who get into battling later on have almost no chance of getting some of these items, because the supply is so abysmally low and the only people who own them are going to keep them forever.

It's just too bad that so many good weapons are just literally unobtainable after the fact. With that kind of motif, people who didn't start with the site and train their pets daily from day one of being able to battle on the site can't realistically catch up. I'd rather it be super difficult to obtain the items, but still possible. For instance, when looking up the best T10-11 weapons, I came across items that were touted as being tier staples such as Dark Goddess Rod, Thunderball, Ancestral Unrest, and Maniacal Essence. But oh look, they're either retired achievement prizes or "Top XX Battlers" prizes from finished plots that can't even be bought from other users because they're so scarce. So how am I able to get "the best tier staples" if there's only 75 or 250 or however many of them in existence, and none will ever be for sale?

But the core is available every Gelatin war, which isn't actually annual but it does come around enough. I think the general tactic of our BAs is to release new god weapons which are comparable instead of re-releasing gods.

Ah, thank you for your answer!

Admittedly, I didn't know that the Gelatin War was a recurring event, hehe. I just started playing regularly again after years of stopping in every few months or so. Thanks for letting me know!

It sounds like the logic behind it is that you want to accordingly reward the dedicated battlers who put in the effort to be the best of the best? I suppose that's understandable, and it means more sweet weapons get released, which is nice! But wouldn't those new weapons be subject to the same availability issues that the current ones suffer from, though? They would be going to (mostly) the same people, thus perpetuating the "rich-get-richer" loop.

Hm, yeah, it is hard, but I think in general right now, its a lot easier to obtain good weapons than it was previously. There are several good options in the MC with a fixed price, and a few good options drop from opponents that do come around yearly (mostly I'm thinking of Rouland/Manifesting Weapon and the Gelatin War/Maniacal Essence)

Theres always going to be some inequality when it comes to battling prizes, but kind of has to be that way to even incentivize battling, otherwise no one would do it.

Yeah, we won't throw weapons that are tied to battling (like from wars etc) in crystal shop or antiques shop. Things that are tied directly, like prizes from battling during a plot or whatever, will likely continue to be tied to battling if brought back in the future. In some way. Somehow. :x

Yeah, I think you're definitely right about that. However, consider that it also does the opposite of incentivizing for some, though. Collectors especially. And that they're wearable sometimes means it goes to non-battlers, too, so the strain on availability comes from two directions. Battlers, and wardrobers. And gallery collectors, too, to some degree, I'm sure. What's more, those battlers can then do even better once they already have these weapons that crush anything else available... making it more impossible to close the gap. I feel like there needs to be some possibility of availability, however small. A lottery. Something. The potion lottery is all well and good, but potions are available other ways. How about throwing in some impossible-to-get items?

I guess in the end we're not entitled to everything. But lacking hope for completion of things is unfortunate.

Hm, do you battle a lot? Weapons help, but they aren't overpowered in that sense (anymore). There's a tiering system, so you need to have a pet of a certain stat to even use the stronger weapons. Using the correct weapons for a challenger certainly helps, I won't argue that, but having high stats is also pretty important. Incidentally, the tiering system also guarantees that some weapon prices don't inflate too much, since for a lot of the weapons, anyone who can use them, can also earn them.

That sorta ties into what I'm saying, though. Newer battlers have no realistic chance of earning those top level prizes, because they haven't already been training and battling for years. The veterans will always have a leg up on them. I do believe it would be nicer if most of the top-level prizes followed the same distribution method as many of the Gelatin War prizes, where they're given to the top battlers in each tier, rather than just the top 75 battlers overall. Something that retains their feeling of exclusivity, while creating enough of a supply where it's reasonable for someone to have the ability to purchase one from another user.

I just hit T9 a little over a week ago, so I think I've got a decent understanding of battling. (For what it's worth, I do think that Subeta's battle system is a vast improvement when compared to the one on Neopets. The tier and scroll systems are both fantastic, and along with blessings and curses, add extra layers of depth that make it much more fun overall!)

But newer battlers don't need to be able to use those top lvl prizes, because they'll be of weapons of a higher tier. So they can just hold off until they can use them. If they want to collect every single wearable then they should consider what goes into that, and adjust accordingly. A lofty goal like that shouldn't be easy to complete.

I'm sorry, but I don't see a good reason to rerelease old god weapons. There are plenty of substitutes that exist now.

But when those battlers do eventually reach higher tiers, they won't find any of those weapons for sale. I'm trying to bring attention to the lack of supply, because I feel it would be beneficial for players' experience to have a nonzero chance to obtain them. No, you're right, it shouldn't be easy. It should merely be possible. (Not counting CWs, of course.)

Either way, I do appreciate your continued patience and insight into this topic. Thank you for all of your responses!

Its ok, because when they do reach those tiers, there will be other events and they will have the opportunity to earn those as well. I was never playing when the original god weapons were released, but still I've managed to build a decent armory. :) It does stink for completionists who want the original god weapons, but I think this compromise is better than devaluing items that people may have spent hundreds of USD buying.

Staff have said on more than one occasion that they defer to the Battle Administrators. The BAs have shown a strong preference for "preserving value". A competitor of Subeta, Neopets, is all about this under all circumstances and this is an example of how if you do this across an entire toy-economy it gets pretty fucked up.

Many arguments for no re-releasing stuff are the same arguments that justify the worst of capitalism. Just like in RL the economic playing field is does not start even, the battlefield of Subeta does not start even. Battle Quests and the untradeable training eggs were originally meant to even this out, but BQs got co-opted and there is continuing efforts to unlock the eggs. This was the ultimate justification for installing the stat-cap here.

Since Subeta does price-support items by rarity and otherwise interferes with supply regardless of demand our toy-economy isn't necessarily RL or super duper capitalist. The choice of following the BA's policies and reinforcing the entrenched battlistrocracy is a matter of style.

Not sure if there is another place to get this but since she only gives out one and now it's hard to come by, maybe she could sell extra copies or the MC could sell them?

I would love to see the and the other colors. Same goes for the

o-o Why so expensive.