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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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try not to worry about it that much, if you need spreadsheets to play a game, you're over-thinking things.

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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- there is a fine line between "need" and "I'm purposely killing time" ;) I doubt I need them, I just find it interesting haha.


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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probably a better use of time studying up on challenger stats + future weapons you can get + scrolls than it is to figure out how much attack increase x amount of strength gets you. as long as you're familiar with more strength = more attack and more icons = more attacks, you understand how stats work I think :p

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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Lmao! Noted ;) I have already began the challenger stats and future scrolls/weapons research :D I get a distinct feeling it will be unending though ;) Although on that note, is there anywhere that actually has lists of weapons stats that aren't out of date? Scrolls I know the forum post, but for weapons it seems to be subeta lodge and I think some of their info isn't current (or lacks information at times)


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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the weapon guide thread seems most accurate. lodge and other sources are often outdated though. did you hit t10 recently? I think I saw you post in the goals that you reached t10 but idk if that was a recent goal achieved or a few weeks ago o-o

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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- yep hit it about a week ago :D I think? ... I've actually completely forgotten. Definitely recently though haha. And thanks very much, I'll check that thread out! Forever looking at the wrong stats x.x


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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idk if I congratulated you or not, so congrats on that! :) most of lodge's stats aren't too far off, but it gets frustrating.

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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thank you! ^_^ I was disproportionately happy haha. I'd really like to hit Tier 11 by the end of the year. Yeah it's missed some key details when I've been trying to make decisions, so I'm glad to have somewhere more reliable to look :D


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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if you continue doing your bqs it's probably achievable? I'm not too sure actually. how much exp do you get each day from bqs, on average? well t10 you start to get into a lot of variety and you really have to design your set around your opponents. t8 you start to see that but it becomes a real thing in t10. you can't really go into every battle with one default set and it'll suffice for everything.

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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At the moment I'm trying to find a balance between what is useful to me NOW at Tier 10 with what makes a sound investment for future tiers. Like you say, I need to strategise at this stage, buuuuut because most weapons are available at Tier 11, I'm tempted to carry on with my current set and just accept losses and branch out once I hit Tier 11. Decisions decisions. I actually haven't figured out how many EXP I get on average. I'll get back to you in a few minutes when I've done mine for the day ;) I'm working from the basis that I went from 8-10 in under 2 months, so I THINK getting to 11 in the space of the rest of the year should be doable... maybe... I'll actually calculate that in a minute ;p


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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it's hard to say without just telling you really expensive things o_o if you have a decent set just at t10, then yeah you may want to wait. you could throw in a sample syringe which is pretty decent, idk how much those are going for right now though. once you figure out your average exp I can tell you how many days of bqs it'll take. t10 exp costs are the same as t11 and t12 right? 1.25k str/def/spd 1.5k hp 1k level?

[edit] costs 2m exp to get to t11 from t10 just from str/def/spd. 2.4m if you spend it all in health. so somewhere in between there. so I just need daily averages to get a good guess in, this doesn't factor in stats from training, REs, or boosters.

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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Sorry that took far longer than it normally would! I had to change up my scroll library partway through my quests, and encountered new opponents at levels 25 and 26 that required a little extra thought haha. So it works out to be around 18k (give or take depending how lucky I get with skips) exp per day. And yes spend is the same :) At the moment I'm working on improving my scroll sets rather than weapons while I wait for T11 (buying a gelaspell and gotf as soon as the seller comes online) - but the syringe looks cool, and isn't too expensive, so I might look into that in the coming weeks, thanks :D once I've restored my vastly dimished sp supply from the scrolls XD


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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so 133 days roughly if you do all in hp, 111 days if you do all in str/def/speed, so probably somewhere in between that, but that's only from bqs. you already have some stats so take a few days away (if you want, post your stats and I'll calculate it more accurately) but it also doesn't take into account stats from training.

don't buy gotf, you'll earn one eventually. gelaspell though isn't too much right now though, and I find it useful. syringe is more expensive than I thought it would be o_o hey look I have one for sale. I should throw it in my wardrobe. idk.

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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Current stats are: Level: 899 Health: 1725 / 1725 Strength: 1981 Defense: 1790 Speed: 1740 Intelligence: 1341 It sounds doable though! Excitement plus!

And yeah I plan to earn one, but I'd like multiples so I'm willing to buy one in the interim :D I think two in a set would be handy. It's a pretty wearable too actually ;p but if it's more than you thought it was it'd make more sense to sell it I would think? I'd buy it from you myself except it'll be about a month before I can splurge on some weapons haha


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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you seem more than a week into t10, t10 is a 1600 stat average, you're past that by a lot. at 18k a day, if you spend it all on str/def/spd, you're looking at 53 days. if you spend it all on hp, you're looking at 63 days. so yes very doable! :)

I have two because of the opponent reset. there's probably a better use of your AP once your hp is a certain amount. but for t10 and t11 they'd be very handy. yeah that's probably why I stuck it in my shop instead of keeping it, I already have one o-o if you're interested, let me know. we can work something out. other weapons I suggest that are t10 are... more expensive. just stuff I think you'd use past t10. though I have very expensive taste o-o

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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that's because I may or may not have spent cough aprettysubstantialbywhichImeanahellofalot cough of sp on boosters this week blush I haven't even USED the exp I've earned since hitting T10 - that's how crazy I went sheepish grin But woah far out. I didn't realise I'd made THAT much progress and halved the time. Wowzer. I'm super excited by that! I feel like having expensive tastes is a default requirement for battling ;) I'd be interested to hear it all the same! Even if they are pipe dreams ;p If you still have it in about a month, I'll drop you a comment :D


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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yeah that'll do it :p ehh you can do okay in t11 with just paintbrush blades and some other weapon. they're under 10m now I believe. I probably will, I haven't tried to sell them at all, the price isn't even updated on them x) is great for t10 but is probably quite hard to find and very expensive since it's a plot top prize, but light/water blocker, it's a very good combination and there aren't too many alternatives. it's the only real light or water blocker I have in my set right now o-o like I said though, expensive. uhhh blessed trident of the banished one is great t10 I think. most things I think of are t11 though.

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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I'll have to pick your brain when I hit T11 then ;p I actually have the blessed trident already :3 likewise I actually just got gifted the paintbrush blades today so I'm all ready for T11 ;D ... oh wow I also just realised my trident was a gift too, along with my helmet. Okay I may need to admit that my friends are entirely responsible for me being a somewhat decent battler XD Iiiiinteresting adds it to wishlist something to look into ;)


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Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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you have a minotaur knocker too? that probably pairs well with the blessed trident. I honestly don't like paintbrush blades, but people use them with success, so they're workable. my somas and reviver were a gift from an anon :p I think everything else I bought/earned myself but I might be forgetting some things?

Jul 9, 2015 10 years ago
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@ kbbob I don't have that one. I thought they couldn't be used together? Don't ask me WHY I thought that but something in my brain is twigging. Hahaha what's your preference then? I'm planning to save for a natasha. Mostly because... damn it just looks so cool :P I can't help but notice anons around here are insanely generous :D good to know they strike everyone ;)

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