Respectfully, I disagree. They aren't both problematic because silver is so generic. That would be like if I had stopped at comparing cherry to neopets red and posted about that. I think it is a good basic color that any pet site should have. You're trying to make me sound bitchier than my intention. I'm not unreasonable. Cherry and Strawberry have more similarities than colors, as mentioned above.

And while Subeta hasn't been compared to Neopets in a while, perhaps, I know you follow tumblr blogs where it has come under fire for other heavy referencing and people crying theft on the part of Subeta artists (and to clarify, I don't buy into any of it). It would just behoove Subeta to at least not fuel arguments like that.

The cherry recolor looks amazing. The added green tones make them look very festive without going overboard :) and I really love how the species don't all have the same uniform shade of dark red.

We can agree to disagree, it's fine by me. I think we're both smart enough to accept it's not personal.

I personally don't have a problem with Cherry. Like, if it was changed or not, it doesn't matter. As long as the color scheme isn't changed, I really don't mind.

I think several people being disappointed about cherry have mentioned they wished that the color was more like the Warador, and in that case, yeah, I think that it would be way too close to Neopets for my comfort. A fruit-themed color in red and green WITH A GENERALIZED FRUIT MOTIF. Yeah, that one would annoy me and I'd be bothered by it. Like, really bothered.

Out of the suggestions you've given (I think it was you, please correct me if I'm wrong), Poinsettia is much superior to Holly, because Holly pets would have to be green with red accents, not red with green accents. Holly are just...80% leaves and 20% berry. Poinsettia would have been better, but maybe Rah, as an art director, didn't want to make the color TOO HOLIDAY SPECIFIC, since Poinsettias are a symbol of the holiday season.

Finally, I would have preferred the eye color on silver to be light blue over lilac. I really am not fond of pale violet shades. You pointed that out, and yeah. I would like it better. More fitting, to me at least!

It's fine. And I agree the general color scheme isn't the issue. It's the combination of the scheme, that it's a static pose/color fill, and fruit themed. When people are basically asking for (or saying they expected) more pets to have the cherry accents the warador has, if that feedback is heeded, the similarities will only increase.

I don't think holly or poinsettia are the best options, but they were what I came up with given the association I made that cherry = Christmas and silver = Hanukkah. But yeah, I considered too that Gemma had wanted to keep it less holiday specific except for the timing of the release.

In that case, it could just be called "poppy" and remove all association to the holidays and fruit, but still retain that bold red and green palette.

Of course, nothing may happen at all. It's easy to say, "well, we know we didn't copy so-and-so," and carry on confidently. But Subeta seems to be making a different sort of focus on user feedback than before, and it would be a shame if this sort of thing and the fact that actions can contribute to an undeserved reputation were ignored.

Yeah, the problem with a fruit name is that people are likely to expect the fruit to be a full theme (instead of merely a colorfill), but, if it becomes a full theme, then it will get too close to other ideas that have been done by different petsites -cough- Neopets -cough-.

Since the "cherry" inspiration was merely there for the color palette (or so it seems, except for the lovely touch on the Warador's wand), I wouldn't be opposed to Subeta possibly creating its own word to define this color.

...or, you know, if there was something red-with-green-accents in Subeta, that could've been used for the name. But I couldn't find anything remarkable with that color combo in any Subetan land, nor is there any Subetan red/green plant. Even Ikumoradeekanox lacks a red fruit...

(I know "cherry red" is a thing, but if we were going to use a fruit name for a color, I'd much rather it be a Subetan fruit :c ) Edit: I like flower ideas better, but I'd still prefer if they were Subetan flowers n_n And I'm afraid some people would still want to see a more flowery look, like they would like to see a more fruity look now... although I feel it would be easier to deal with just that.

On a slightly different note, I rather like the mockups with brown accents. In that case the color could've been named crimson, scarlet or whatever other generic word that didn't associate to anything else besides the color. But that would require a change in the palette, and many people have fallen in love with the way it is now. :x

But, why just with fruit and not with Sun and Marsh? This is a double standard that really confuse me. Why are people not expecting their sun pets to be radiating with light rays? Why aren't people expecting their Marsh pets to have mud on their paws.

This double standard really bothers me and I don't see a legitimate reason to have more leaves and stems and cherry thematic, if sun and marsh don't have them.

Sign me up for poppy, this is super cute. 10/10.

I'm playing devil's advocate here, but we do have lilac without flowers. ;)

Honestly, one of my greatest daydreams as Creative Director was to rename a lot of Subeta's colors. Really, really, really wanted to do that.

I'm not sure, maybe it's Neopets running in the back of our minds when it comes to fruit pets xD

I'm not personally bothered by the lack of fruity touches in them, but if anyone asked me, I'd probably prefer more "generic" color names for (all) colorfills, just so there wouldn't be room for this type of feedback :x

...ok I had totally forgotten lilac was a flower, YOU GOT ME THERE. xD It's like roses and the rosy color, they're so ingrained in our minds!

Part of me keeps saying that colors are a very important aspect of Subeta, and, as such, if they could be kept within the lore it would be great. Given it's not really a possibility at the moment (for this color combo in special, there's nothing to make a reference to), I do think it'd be easier to get away with a flowery theme, at least c:

While they're not exclusive to Subeta, there are definite cherries on Subeta, making them part of the lore, but not part of the exclusive Subeta lore. And, it's not bad at all!

It's simpler to go with concepts people know. Like, Luxe pointed out Neopets concerning their use of food colors and when they released the Agueena Chia, my only question was : what the hell is an Agueena? Simple names involve everyone and you know why Cherry is called Cherry. Because it's red (cherries are red) and green (fresh cherries' leaves and stems are green!)

I STILL LIKE POPPY BETTER FITE ME.

Cherries aren't bad indeed, it must be the lore craze in me - I keep thinking subeta needs more internal references to help creating world atmosphere xD YES I ADMIT IT, THE LORE CRAZE HAS TAKEN ME OVER.

OK SO POPPY IT IS! Or, well, it isn't. BUT YOU GET ME. xD

I don't know why anyone who's been a member here for more than a week would expect "Cherry" pets to involve cherries somehow. Although I suppose it might be cool if all of our color fills were named after a specific category (maybe plants or stones), they don't. Maybe I'm alone in this, but I've personally always liked Subeta's names for their colors- I remember it being one of the things that stuck out to me when I joined. "Dusk pet" and "Field pet" seemed so much more poetic than "Blue pet" and "Green Pet".

It also seems silly to me that we would avoid something just because Neopets did it when it's 100% normal for competing companies to copy each other. More often than not, Subeta has been the trend-setter among pet sites rather than the follower, and if people are choosing to ignore that then they're probably just looking for any excuse to bash it and it really doesn't matter what we call it. They're going to see that it's the same two complimenting colors and say it's copied, even though most of our color-fills are composed of compliments/split-compliments.

I haven't been on Neopets in ages, is the red/green color now just "Strawberry" rather than "Strawberry Fields Forever" ? See, if we really wanted rub people the wrong way, we could call the new color "Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree" or something equally trademarked.

[edit] I feel like the fact that I brought Neopets into this is invalidating my point for some people. What if it was Flight Rising, MisticPets, Aywas, or Sylestia? Or whichever pet site you personally regard as respectable these days?

Random, but I rather like Dusk and Field too. They feel like clever references to nature that would be inherently present both in Subeta and in the real world c:

Anyway, the paintbrush is called "Strawberry Fields Forever Paint Brush" so I guess it could be seen as the official name. Still, Jellyneo and every user I've seen in the several years I played just called it "strawberry", I'm fairly sure TNT addressed their new pet releases the same way.

Not that this matters much, though! I personally don't see the Neopets color as similar to this one, exactly because Subeta's lack the "fruity" aspect, but I can see how a name change would be beneficial to avoid these two (conflicting) branches of negative feedback.

Do not like the green. Like, at all. Really, don't like it.

At first I was a little disappointed that the silver wasn't more shiny/metallic looking on most of the pets. It bothered me that they were just gray..., then I remembered that everyone calls my hair silver, and it's just gray too. :) The more I look at them the better I like both new colors. Can't wait to see the Archan and Rreign re-colors get done.

The problem with the Cherry pets for me is that freaking lime green. It's such a weird shade, it's not complimentary (maybe it is technically complementary on the wheel, but it is not cute here) to the gorgeous shades of red.. I would have much rather the little bits of pink and white or cream for accent colors. That lime green reminds me of cheap cherry patterned undies, and more strawberryish than cherry. I love the cherry Lain, definitely getting one of those, and the Chai, Devonti, the Tigrean is amazing. But the Dilemma's arm looks radioactive. The green just seems jarring and out of place - on the pets where it's a subtle touch, the effect is nicer. Poppy is a way better name for the color, I agree!

And as far as Silver goes, I think there is a definite need for simpler pet colors. Less is more, right? Not every color has to be super elaborately themed and dripping with details.

I seem to be the only one that was not exactly blown away by these... but then I don't really see the point in having the twilight, dusk etc colors... the thing I like most about the colors like reborn, glacier etc are the different poses of the pets. But I guess if people are enjoying them. :) I wouldn't have thought there was such a desire for these more plain colors I guess.

I usually associate holly green with Xmas, not the bright green used for the cherry pets, so I don't have the same problem as some people seem to. To me, the cherry pet color scheme reminds me of candy apples.

I always appreciate new colors and themes for the pets. I wasn't immediately floored by the Cherry color, and thought green was an odd choice for an accent color. However, I have been looking through a few other pet colors and the Bloodred especially reminded me of the new Cherry look. Bloodred pets have both a red, and a green eye. So the green and red combination isn't really a new concept for Subeta, it just has been more subtle until now. I figure it's just Subeta's special magical color wheel that makes Cherry both red and green.

I like the Silver color. It appears to be a nice neutral look with just a hint of lavender. :)