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Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Amae
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Breck

Rah says here that they're a couple. So it's been officially confirmed.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Zay
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Riza

I'm actually really glad it's been confirmed <3 jaxian forever!


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Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Oh My Shinwa, we thought
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Percy

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lmao I came to post the exact same thing.

It's okay everyone, you can survive having one canon gay pairing. Then again, these are probably the same people that see one gay couple like, holding hands, and go 'ummm okay I'm not a homophobe but like, I wish they'd stop shoving it in my face.'

can we have lesbians next thank

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Amae
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Breck

That image makes my life.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Muerte
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Forevermore

I am getting some major Xena and Gabrielle flashbacks here. There are still people who deny they are a couple because they are delusional even though it's been confirmed a hundred times over. I'm not all ~~woo Jaxon and Ian forever ** but it is awesome a site like this would do a queer couple. Representation matters. Period. It does not matter how small or unimportant you think it is, it's important (which is also why people need to pull their heads out of their tightly puckered asses and stop referring to Quentin as a male or female). Honestly, straight people are the most represented and are the first to say representation doesn't matter. If you don't see the issue with that, then you also need to remove your head from your personal hiding place. "It's not there because I don't want it to be." Too bad, I exist.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Amae
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Honestly, straight people are the most represented and are the first to say representation doesn&;t matter. If you don&;t see the issue with that, then you also need to remove your head from your personal hiding place.
&quot;It&;s not there because I don&;t want it to be.&quot; Too bad, I exist.

Hear, hear.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Loop
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Both of you were jumping to conclusions. Just because somebody doesn't like the couple doesn't mean they're a homophobe or a troll. They may not like it for a number of reasons other than the characters' sexuality. Maybe they don't like the way the couple looks together. Maybe they don't think the personalities complement each other. Maybe they think the characters are better off with other characters.

Personally I hate shipping. Technically I hate the fanbase reaction more so the actual romantic progress the couple is going through. Hate it though. Regardless of gender or sexuality. Canon or fanon couples. Especially fanon couples. It is one of the most obnoxious things I've ever had the misfortune to encounter on the internet. Right up there with Youtube comments and SJW. Romance can be nice, but it really depends on the work itself. In general there is way too much attention on sex and romantic love and not nearly enough attention on the fact that relationships can be strong/life-long without those things. You don't have to be in love with/want to fuck someone to be willing to make sacrifices for them or feel an immense sense of loss when they're gone. The show Supernatural (Merlin too actually) completely revolves around this. Irritatingly they also have massive shipbases.

But I think the original point of the thread was that Jaxon's revamp was nice. It is. He looks good. Especially when he smiles. I'd like it if there were more NPC art around the site. Kind of wish the art galleries would make a comeback. I read in another thread that the staff will be focusing on NPCs next year, so I'm looking forward to that.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
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Riza

There are certain ships I don't get anywhere near with a 10 foot pole, but that doesn't mean others can't enjoy them. I just do my best to avoid the ones I dislike. Jaxian, is an entirely different case for me though. I personally think they're adorable, but that's just my opinion.


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Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Tucker
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Dude, seriously. I don't follow staff around so don't go assuming things about me. I never saw any confirmation shit or a news post basically flashing in 92pt neon glittery font "Jaxon and Ian are totally shagging nonstop in the pumpkin patch!". I was finding it interesting, at that time no less, that people seemed to be jumping to the idea that they're lovers when I never saw anything even hinting at.

And this here is why if I ship something it's going to be the oddest least noticed shit so I don't have to put up with rabid fans. I totally ship The Broken Tea Cup x Ian. XD

To take it back on topic: I'm meh over his new design. It's alright but not my style. As I said before I never liked Jaxon in the first place. I kind of like Ian's new look but I find his floofy hair silly. lol Though it does seems to fit with "scientist who's too busy to really care what he looks like".


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Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Aztec
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I don't follow them, Rah happened to reblog my post and confirmed it. And because I saw people on here saying they didn't think they were together, they were just friends, I chose to post the proof saying otherwise. I didn't assume anything about anyone. If people don't want to ship them, that's fine. But to be like 'They're friends, not boyfriends, because that's how I want it to be' and deny the canon is pretty gross. Don't ship them? Fine. Just don't deny they're a couple.

As a personal example, I don't ship Will and Elizabeth from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, I don't care for that ship at all. But they are married in the canon, so I have to accept that.

Also, I'm not sure how you missed the hints. It was very heavily hinted at, as Rah mentions in her post. It doesn't have to be blatant and in our face the way Skitters and Fantine was for it to be obvious. Jaxon called Ian 'my dear', and 'beloved'. And for a character well known to be misanthropic, that was a pretty glaring sign.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Tucker
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Ah see, I was taking the "my dear" and "beloved" to be old fashion. I mean I always figured Jaxon was ancient so it never registered to me. I remember having a few times where I had to reread something in a Victorian novel because I mistook a simple "my dear" or "beloved" to mean the character was in love.

Tumblr? I don't use it for good reasons.

This doesn't change anything for me anyway. I'm not here for the NPCs nor did I come here because of them. I'm here for the pet art.

I don't get the Sailor Moon (is that Sailor Moon related?) image. Please don't reply to this on here.


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Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Aztec
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Whether you use tumblr or not isn't really relevant. I don't follow any staff members. Like I said, Rah just reblogged a post I made, so that's how I saw the confirmation.

If you don't care about the NPCs, that's fine. It still goes back to my point of it's alright if you don't ship them, just don't deny the canon that they are actually a couple. That's when things start getting gross and iffy.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Gremlin
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The art is nice.

Not another one of Gremlin's shitty spoilers Let's do something phenomenological. Let's talk about how Gremlin feels about this. (Gremlin is the only user the matters, duh.)

Now, Gremlin in real life is a male. Gremlin in real life is currently in a relationship with a male. Gremlin likes representation; because representation is good in normalizing something that should have been normalized from the get-go.

Gremlin currently feels a little uncomfortable. Why? Because Gremlin believes that most of the people on tumblr doing the shipping and the people here lobbing accusations of people being homophobic are treating sexuality as some sort of commodity that they want more of. Gremlin will also make the assumption that the majority of these people are women; just through peeking at a couple of their blogs and avatars (avatars of course is not a fair indicator, but I don't have time to snoop around).

Women who somehow have gotten a PhD in MxM relationships from Tumblr University.

Gremlin wants you to adopt the viewpoint of , who hits the nail on the head. I have a sexuality that may need to be further represented; and of course this is nice because it normalizes it. But not if it feels forced (which the people in this thread and on tumblr are making me that it is such) and if it retcons characters. The storyline did not make it seem forced, it seemed realistic which is good.

But more importantly, I am an individual. Everyone is an individual. Ian and Jaxon are individuals. I like them as a couple not because of their sexuality. I like them as a couple because I admire their loyalty, their interesting backgrounds, and how they overcome their differences as a couple.

But please, I am not a commodity because of my sexuality.

Now I want to end this spoiler here, but unfortunately Gremlin likes to write these sorts of things because it distracts him from writing a research paper on Edward Tyson.

I understand that people like shipping, even if it isn't my sort of thing I'm glad that people do it and enjoy it. I will get over the minor discomfort this little debacle has caused. Why? Because I am a strong individual. Besides, if I can get over the day when my mother told me that "If I ever find out that one of my children is gay, I will kill myself" and also how I got over my preteen years where I spent hours in my room crying and begging to a god that doesn't exist to make me normal, I know that I'll survive.

But to repeat myself it feels forced because certain users are portraying themselves like this and then going berserk at people who are not doing so:

Which is unfortunately the vibe I am getting with certain individuals calling people who dislike the relationship (and have not explicitly or implicitly) [actually nobody has said they are disgusted by the relationship I believe; only that they thought they were friends, should remain best friends, or that they were simply mocking shippers] as homophobic. If they are making homophobic comments then file a ticket against them.

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Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
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Hyacinthe

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Dr. Ian Asmodeus also seems to have an affection for Quentin, much like the relationship one has with a younger sibling. He has been noted to be very protective of Quentin&;s desire for privacy, going so far as to threaten all those who may hurt their feelings.

From Quentin's Subetapedia page, which dates from what, 2010?

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Aztec
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Tbh, I find it pretty fucked up that you're implying I only care about Jaxian because I'm a girl and on tumblr. Did you consider that some of us girls aren't straight either, and that we're excited for Jaxian because it opens the door to other same sex/queer relationships, including f/f? Because that's definitely part of what I care about.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Gremlin
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I am sorry about that, I shall edit that right away. I usually don't read the Subetapedia and I was recalling that from memory. Thank you for letting me know.

I am not implying that at all. I am implying that it makes me feel uncomfortable because that is how it seems from the incredibly vitriol commentary that feels (this is my personal feeling) that someone is doing on my behalf.

(And if anyone out here actually cares about social justice I have a wee tip. Volunteer at a legal clinic and the like; directly fight for the underrepresented and disenfranchised.)

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Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
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Arachnophobia

I LOVE the faces and art for both of them. In fact, I was kind of hoping we would see a full-size revamp for them both... but sadly, that wasn't the case (as in, Ian's art is still old at the Genetech lab). I look forward to seeing those revamps though, since they both look great now!

Oh, and FYI, on the subject of Jaxian: This isn't new. They were confirmed back in 2010 when people were shipping Manwar and Nico during Epicon. People were saying 'there is no representation for non-hetero couples' and it was confirmed then that Jaxon and Ian were together. However, it was so long ago, I think we all forgot! lol I remembered Jaxon was confirmed homosexual, but couldn't remember if it was Ian who was his significant other... clearly, that was the case. So basically, staff was just reminding us about this, and doing some story building for the NPCs. (Also, yay for them being together that long even though Jaxon is a ghost!) Regardless, I think it is cute how it was presented. Especially considering how their personalities are supposed to be... the subtle-ness seems appropriate. :3 I hope we have a continuation of this plot next year, so we can see these two adorable boys some more... and get more updated art for them. The plots are a great device for art updates for NPCs!

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Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Aztec
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The only person that called someone homophobic on here was , not me. My comments towards Snob were 100% directed at his 'get a life' comment, which was an asshole thing to say.

I care about Jaxian because the two are cute together, and I'm not straight. The representation matters to me. And yes, you did imply that the only reason I care is because I'm a girl and on tumblr. It completely erased every girl that happens to care because they aren't straight, and it's important that they get to see a same sex relationship.

And I have a wee tip for you. Not everyone has the ability to volunteer. I don't even know what a legal clinic is. Saying this makes you come off very patronizing and arrogant.

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
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Precious Angel

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unless I get a correction from the staff, I’m going to mark Jaxon and Ian down as actually in a relationship

That's only an assumption, not a genuine confirmation.

It'd be nice to get an actual confirmation XP

I just don't know how a living human could be in a relationship with...someone like Jaxon (not divulging any information as per request from Jaxon XD)

Nov 2, 2014 11 years ago
Amae
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Breck

You have to read the whole post...

This is said by Rah.

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We were trying to show rather than tell this time - it just makes for a more fun story to have the audience figure it out! I don’t think Jaxon OR Ian are the kind to outright say ‘Hello boyfriend let’s kiss now k’ after all that’s happened. I thought the dialogue made it pretty clear :) (I mean the ‘leave us so we can enjoy my final hours of solitude’ bit doesn’t mean they’re playing checkers)</p>
<p>I suppose we’re all so used to queerbaiting that there’s still so much doubt in things like this actually being canon. That is terribly sad to us on the creative team, and we want to make sure we are representing a wide variety of sexualities and gender identities :)

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