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Oct 26, 2014 11 years ago
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Eh, it's a cool idea, but it would definitely have to be tweaked A LOT to make it unique for Subeta and also not too similar to the Scribble color.

Oct 26, 2014 11 years ago
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If it's in Subeta's style, then I don't see what about it is calligraphic. It just sounds like a different pose, and not a complete color suggestion.

If it's in a different style, then I'm not really supportive because I like Subeta's style and that's why spend my time here.

"Not my cup of tea so I'm going to say no." :P


Oct 26, 2014 11 years ago
The Cursed
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It's nothing like Scribble at all except for the idea that it's drawn.

Can you add my example, as well as a few examples of animal calligraphy of different styles to the starting post? People are jumping to the conclusion that it's a clone of Scribble.

This is why I wanted to have a few example pictures done first! frustrated groan

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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Not my cup of tea so I&;m going to say no.
qft truth, add me to the negative nelly pile 😆 this animal calligraphy thing seems like the perfect idea for an overlay, not a pet color.


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Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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I don't like this idea.

I don't think this idea is at all well-enough developed into something consistent. I have never heard of Okami, but looking at the examples given it doesn't look like anything to me. Everyone is riffing on the idea very vaguely and if the style could literally look like any of the other examples which don't look like them at all to me and easily transfer to other styles, then it's not really "a subeta color", it's an overlay or series of different overlays.

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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Quote by cartel
Not my cup of tea so I&;m going to say no.
qft truth, add me to the negative nelly pile 😆 this animal calligraphy thing seems like the perfect idea for an overlay, not a pet color. Jumping on this pile as well.

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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Funny how we are told to give constructive criticism when we have a different opinion while just saying "Omg yeah!" would be enough if we'd agree.

Anyways, I'm not overly keen on the ideas either and think these would be better suited for overlays than for an actual pet color.

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
The Helper
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You asked for explanations, so... XD

I don't consider 'Okami' to be a style in the same way that 'Legend of Zelda: Windwaker' is not a style. Find me a name of a style so I can at lease Google examples that aren't all from the same game, y'know? Because if Okami pioneered this art style and is the only major media to use it, it'll look hella tacky for Subeta to copy it.

If what you want is something that looks like calligraphy, I'm not honestly sure I could see there being enough variance between pets to merit an entire colour. Are there different styles of calligraphy? Furthermore, how do you guys see this style translating into cel-shading? Same question for the 'Okami' style, until I get a better name for it.

I think it would be neat to see pets drawn in a certain style of art, like how we had a monthly collection that was all pop-art, but all pets would have to be the same style, IMO. All are watercolour-esque, all are charcoal-esque, or else you'll have no consistency (and grouchy users).

How would you work in the pets still being alive?

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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Oh, finally, someone with a semblance of an actual response.

I was opposed to using "Okami" as well, but Ink insisted on it, so I suggested at least add 'Calligraphy' as the idea begun with calligraphy in the SB, not Okami.

Also, in an earlier comment, I mentioned there were many styles of calligraphy to pick from- Asian, Medieval, Modern, Graffiti, Arabian, Indian, English, and so on... In the same comment, I said that it doesn't necessarily have to be that the pets are drawn as calligraphy, but also that the pets could have calligraphy painted onto them, which I showed an example of.

You're mistaking media for style. Watercolor, charcoal, and the like are media. Style is the variety in how it's drawn, rather than the media it's done with.

"How would you work in the pets still being alive?" Graveyard, Scribble, Steamwork, Nostalgic...

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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ÅŒkami is a pretty popular game with graphics made to looks like sumi e, Japanese ink paintings. The player controls Amaterasu and can interact with the world/fight enemies using ink strokes as well as the general weapons.

As much as I love ÅŒkami and would love some sort of ink/watercolor style, I can't really see it being done and still keeping the "Subeta" pet style. Maybe I'm just not imaginative enough. I also can't really support it if each pet jumps between mediums instead of one consistent style. I love the scribble pets but it irks me a bit that some of them look like a kid's drawings and others are more detailed, like an artist trying to imitate a kid's drawings.

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
The Cursed
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I'm starting to think we'll need to make a new thread without "Okami" because people are getting hung up on that and ignoring the "calligraphy" part.

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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I think more people might be drawn in by Okami though.

Most of the examples of animal calligraphy art Google is giving me are Arabic examples. Which are gorgeous btw, but I think it'd be the same as the ink painting and probably the same with charcoal. Too stylized and less Subeta style. Again that might just be my lack of imagination though. I'd have to see an example of a Subeta pet drawn into what you and OP are talking about.

Those Si Scott examples that were posted were nice though. Almost looks like melted metal.

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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What you need to do is make a new thread where you've actually informed yourself so you can subsequently inform us.

I mean seriously, first of all calligraphy is an art style pertaining to writing, not images. Secondly, not once have I heard any of the supporters mention emaki/emakimono or sumi-e, which is the art that Okami is based off of. Do you guys even know what you're suggesting? and Thirdly, you should have had crap done beforehand. So many, "I was going to..." and "I wanted to have" blah blah no one was stopping anyone from doing that before the topic was made and no one is stopping you from doing that now.

The fact of the matter is I think something similar to this could be a really cool thing to have, but this thread was just created awfully and you're so defensive you're not going to get anyone on your side. I mean, I'm not longer for this color anymore, mainly because as I read I realized that you guys don't really have a clear picture of what you want.

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Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
The Cursed
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Yeah, I plan to. Someone just couldn't wait... grumbles

Oct 27, 2014 11 years ago
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Sucre

Yeah, I can't say I love the idea either. My first thought when I saw the thread was that you could just get an overlay in that style, and it's kind of turned into a mess since then. The point stands though, I feel it would be better to just get an overlay than to create pets in this style

Oct 28, 2014 11 years ago
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Apologies for being unclear -- I do understand the difference between what the drawing is done with, and the style it's done in. However, when you draw something with the intent of making it look as though it's a watercolour painting, I don't know how easy it would be to work in the necessary lineart and cel-shading.

I think those examples of calligraphy would be a good addition to this thread! Pictures, links... All stuff that could get added to the OP to help folks understand the concept you're going for.

And I see your point with those pets, but Subeta has canonized how those pets are alive. The Graveyard pets are undead, so they're alive-ish? XD And the undead exist in the Subeta universe already. Steamwork pets have been souped up by Yun Enterprises, and Nostalgic pets have had some kind of Luminaire magic infused into them. Scribble... is just a joke colour, so far as I can tell XD I was just wondering what the story would be for this colour. If the calligraphy is just 'painted' on, that makes it easy!

Oct 28, 2014 11 years ago
The Cursed
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I'm currently working on finding artists who can pull the calligraphy concept off to show. I'm aiming for the painted on idea, though I'll also add extensions...

I'll probably end up making a new thread entirely because peoples' impression has been tainted by 'Okami' already and people are jumping to conclusions.

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