Sorry to ping again I hope it's okay. I don't really know how things work but maybe you could start the change by posting that the tickets will stop and points would be given out instead. Some will probably be upset by this but then you can have the tickets remain redeem able until they start to get redeemed and phased out? You will probably always have people that will keep things (I'm guilty of this :x sorry). I just think maybe do something before they get crazy out of hand. I know you said you don't want them as an item and if you feel it would be better for the site (lag-wise,server-wise, etc) to have them removed, I guess I wouldn't mind so much though I would be a bit bummed a little. I can't say how others would take the change, but as long as things are transparent I'm sure the majority can be reasoned with. I don't know if this is possible but could they be converted by account similar to the importing of achievements? like I remember there was one day where you had to do the import to access the site and during the process they could be converted into points? After everyone is converted i wouldn't mind a replica being put in the shop

Oh no, I meant like you could buy/sell/gift the raffle tickets to other users and they could in turn redeem them? Not just like a item for items sake, because that would be confusing and being able to buy/sell them is really great for people who don't really need them and for people who might not be that social/lucky (or just need a lot lol).

I'd love for them to just be "points" instead of items~

Oh I see what you're saying now, sorry I miss understood you. I was trying to come up with a way to phase their use as a physical(virtually physical? XD) item out all together. You bring up a very good point about people that don't post often on the forums, it's something I wasn't considering and I'm one of those people. I guess I figured with so many that the shop items wouldn't really hold their high value with the amount of tickets going out now, so i figured the items themselves would become more available. People could just buy the items outright for reasonable prices from user shops or people could just sell their points like epicon. I equally like your idea though :3

I didn't realize people had responded to this, lol. Glad to see so much support for it!

I do actually like being able to buy the tickets. That way I can save up for what I need and still have those points in the shop. Rather than just forking out a bunch of sp for one of the items. And since it's still fairly new I'm finding it hard to get prices on some of them. For instance the paint is the highest point item and one sold in the shops for 19,500,000. That a good chunk of change all at once. But if I can buy the tickets I can slowly save up enough points for it. I think Andrea has a good idea with her suggestion. That way we can still buy tickets from people, which are about 300-400k this week, and not have to make it a one or the other situation regarding points vs an item and everyone is happy.

that's a good idea! That way people like me could still buy the tickets from people. Personally, I don't want to shell out the sp for some of the items because they are so expensive. I'd rather buy a ticket when I can and save those up over time.

Personally I'd be 100% behind the idea of most point currancy (namely referal, questpoints, and these) being able to be sold to other users much like csc is-- where a user buys (earns, in this case) currency and can either use it directly to purchase things or they can sell it to other users whom can do as they please with it.

I don't think that concept would really tarnish the means of obtaining it yourself, because if you can't afford to buy it from another user-- you can earn it yourself by posting/questing/referring users. It wouldn't be all that different, to me, than users earning the points/currency and buying things to sell to other users. If anything it might be a bit more rewarding because it cuts the gamble of "if I buy this will anyone buy it?" and the profit made from selling tickets/what have you is still technically a reward for posting/co. And it might help to alleviate the problem of users hoarding currency because there's nothing they want to buy for themselves (maybe, idk I need everything forever so having excess points is a foreign problem to me haha).

Just a thought, Idk!

I think this would be much more preferable!

ahh, I see. I'm pretty much using them the same way as quest points right now. I guess if you really do want it to be rewards for individuals who actually post than you could do it so that users can't buy/sell the points.. Though I don't love that idea lol.

I rather get points than redeemable items.

I'd much rather they were earned points so you could only sell the items, I think this would help them maintain their value much better. Thought it might be a bit late at this point =/