If we start using the "what about the newbie" logic, we are not going to go anywhere productive.

Some items are desirable and expensive. Should we rerelease the secondskin via majors drills because it's desirable? God weapons because they're part of an achievement? Sometimes, you have to accept that yeah, you missed the window of opportunity to get what you want for cheap. The fault is not on the site.

Not everything should be cheap and rereleased because "it's expensive". The reason why things like orange and yellow piroctopus beanbags were rereleased is because they were restockable in the first place. We should rerelease some (and even then, not all) items that are near impossible to obtain altogether.

The rag dolls are not impossible to get. Yes, it sucks that the achievement is expensive, but you can borrow them. Priority for rerelease should be on consumables because they cannot be loaned and vanish when used.

I never said anything about newbies or new users or anything. This is a matter of people hoarding an item they got for free and jacking up the prices because they can. That's not fair to ANYONE who doesn't have the item, newbies or not.

You can't even compare godlies or secondskin to ToT items, lol just stop I can't take you seriously right now.

This is a suggestion thread. I liked the suggestion. Let it go.

[edit] And this isn't about the achievement. Not everyone wants achievements. Some people just want wearables to you know, wear, and not borrow. Anyway I think you forget about books then, since those are consumable too. But I'm done now.

STILL SUPPORT FOR DRILLS.

It is fair. If you were not there to get the items, you were not there. That's it. The same goes for achievements and such. If you missed a retired achievement, they can't just go and unretire because people don't have it.

The dolls are nowhere in short supply. They're not rare. Just desirable because of achievements. Wait a few months and they'll deflate.

It's a suggestion thread. I don't like deflating everything because not everyone can afford desirable things.

By your logic, it should be "if you missed out on the foods too, then you're SOL". The foods go towards achievements. If you missed out on those foods, then why should they be brought back either? It's still achievement oriented. There is really no other reason to feed your pets than for that.

Can't afford the desirable food items? Too bad. ^That's basically how you sound.

My logic is different between things that are consumable and non-consumable, and I thought that was clear.

We can run out of certain food items because once they're eaten, they're gone. We can run out of beanbags, stickers, plushies, trading cards and books because they poof when you use them.

Ragdolls don't poof when they're in someone's wardrobe. They're not consumable. They're not going to vanish when used, because you can remove a wearable from your wardrobe.

But, you cannot uneat a food, or unread a book. Once all of the supply is gone, it's gone. Even if all of the supply of a wearable is 100% in wardrobes, wardrobes do not delete items. You can undo the action you did. Which makes the rerelease of wearables far from necessary.

Beanbags/plushies/etc are all included in "still retired morostide items" that the OP mentioned. Not once did I say "Oh we should only unretire wearables".

The only reason I brought up the ragdolls is because you brought them up first.

Regardless, I'm STILL in support of retired morostide items being put in Drills.

Now please stop pinging me. This is silly.

I'm definitely in favour of Major Drills (or any quest NPCs really, but Major Drills would be ideal, seeing as he's entering into the spirit of things with his amazing outfit ;)) giving out Morostide themed stuff (in particular any items that are used in the new achievements (rag dolls, candy skull beanbag etc), but any Morostide themed stuff would make me bother doing his quests ;)) :)

I don't want to get into an argument, but if expensive wears ( not specifically the ragdolls) will be released, I'd wager this would be a good way to do it because I'm not suggesting the Major give out expensives/retireds for every completed quest. This would be a chance to get these without deflating them completely.

But since I collect wears like consumables (I never take anything out of my wardrobe) and know many others do the same, I understand my outlook is different here :) I'd be perfectly ok if staff agreed with Sopheroo on the matter.

Major Drills giving out the anniversary items worked really well imo, and nothing deflated to super low amounts (except maybe the ninth anni gift bags xD). As I understand it, there was a rare chance of him giving out the expensive stuff and I, personally, would like to see him giving out the occasional rag doll/candy ring/other super expensive thing during Morostide. :) It would make his quests actually worth doing.

I am personally all for this, as well. Those rings are ridiculous.