I pushed a fix earlier for the pet leashes, was yelling at me :)
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GOOD FOR HER. Thank you (both of you) XD
Did you get the event set to work when a leash expires, too?
Bless q___q I'm going to activate one right now.
I guess we'll see in 30ish days if it works jasfksd
At my limit of 37 pets, I finally got all of them painted and so on, and now I'm out of goals and boredly waiting for the holidays (I really don't care about the wardrobe much.) If I could buy more slots, I would. If I had to pay 5000CSC, I would. I'm sure I'm not the only one who adores the pet aspect of Subeta and would gladly pay more for a few more slots. Surely they don't cause as much strain as 20,000 item shops? I'm never going to buy CSC clothing that doesn't interest me, but a 5000CSC pet slot? I'd buy SO MANY of them.
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After reading through most of the posts (thank you for starting this discussion!) it seems to me that the problem is less the recoding (and ideas how to do it) but the data. Maybe instead of applying bandaids here and there (and each time breaking another feature/function) it would be better to concentrate on how to make the data transferable to a new version? Because really, building Subeta V2 from scratch will cost time and effort, but is no rocket science. The important thing is not the frame work or the code, but what the users have built. Their contacts and communications, their pet's training success, their battle achievements, their other achievements. And there must be a way how this data base can be poured into a new system.
The big advantage I see is the very dedicated and supportive user base. They are patient, they have great ideas, they test (and many of them actually do staff like work with information and constructive criticism), they do everything. I seriously think that this makes Subeta differ from any other pet page I've been playing.
My point in that post is that in conceptualizing Subeta V2 (aka, what it would look like if we started with a blank slate and created a game today) there would be a lot of the current "pieces" of Subeta missing. And so the data wouldn't be very easy to move not because data is hard to move, but because we'd have an entirely different idea of what Subeta 'is'.
An entire site recode of the exact same site that Subeta is now would cost $35,000+ (just programmers) over the course of a few months. Unfortunately we don't have that kind of money to spend on something that wouldn't go live for a few months (+ testing) and we can't dedicate our existing resources (programmers) to working on a new Subeta because the current site would be even more unusable over those months. It's a problem we've faced every time we've come to this road.
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Okay great, we have a rough cost of what it would cost to redo the basic code. Since sites like Kickstarter are out of the question, why not host your own donation drive in the cash shop here? Sites like Jellyneo host this (monthly?) to raise funds to pay for the site and a similar concept could be applied here though on a much grander scale.
Set up a timeline (usually a month, would probably go two or more here maybe?) and a separate page for donations. There could be tiers with various prizes with maybe the highest tier being several hundred dollars and something desirable such as getting to help design a pet or new color or something.
You could only donate with cash, not turning in csc. Everyone who donates even like $5 or $10 dollars could have a trophy.
And even if the fundraiser fell through and we didn't raise quite enough it would help Subeta gain a little bit of padding and maybe could be tried again in the future.
Edit: Also I'm glad Subeta V2 was kinda scraped, I don't think I would have liked it if it took over the existing site. I like this Subeta, not one with roaming and breeding :P
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Don't worry about it, no harm done aside from a bit of a fright on my end. xD
I wouldn't mind a gallery cap if it would help the site breathe, but that would kind of screw over my galleries that I use as hoards for pet TC items. :/ It's kind of a double-edged blade either way. If they can work out a way to keep galleries to a good size (10-15k items, maybe?) without killing the system completely, I'd be all for it. Possibly also make it easier to buy pet TC slots if TCs affect the site less than galleries. I'd be happy to shove my TC items into TCs instead of keeping them in a gallery if TCs got a facelift and were made easier to work with.
We've thought about it, but what incentive is there to donate when you can go into the cash shop and buy an item and get something for it? I'm probably just a little bit cynical about this, even though I've donated tons to projects on KS over the years.
I'm going to start by adding a little progress bar to the user login widget (working on making it smaller!) that will show where we are on our daily CSC goal (purchase, not spending csc. SO CONFUSING) to make budget for the day. It's going to be red a lot. :|
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Put that on the news page instead or something. I really don't need to see that more than once a day.
It's also not terribly relevant since you could make $2 today and $20000 tomorrow. It's really neat, but don't shove it in my face, please?
Just speaking for myself here, but I'm more likely to donate to 'a cause' (particularly if there are achievements involved...) than buy anything from the CS atm. Quite simply I have 5000 csc right now from commissions in Subeta currency that I had to take in order to be able to sell here (fair enough), my friend has, last she told me, 17,000csc, I'm not going to be buying any with real cash any time soon. Mine is lower because I sell it for sP when things get tight 'cos I'm working on my pets. As you can probably tell... she's not. But the fact of the matter is: the Cash Shop does not currently offer me anything much. I don't really know what you could tempt me with, I get the challengers, sometimes the monthlies if I can be asked and I'd get the MKBs from there if I remembered them, but that's not making much of a dent in my csc. Currently if you're not a wardrobe person, there isn't a huge amount of draw. The 'big money' items I get are the potions, particularly the mystery potions, and the weapons, which once you have you don't need more of and unless you change your pets around a LOT how often do you need a mystery potion... As someone whose focus is on pets, I'd like pet-equivalents of such items like the OLL, temporary, fairly cheap, commonly used items that I'll want on a regular basis. If there was a CS item that allowed me to remove a single pet from the resort I'd buy it every single time so I could put everyone in there, then take out my gourmet pet. Currently I don't use the resort unless I need/want to battle and just let all my pets starve, but give me a CS item that'd let me take Raikov out and you'd suck all the sP and CSC out of me through the resort alone XD
Temp CS SubQ lines must bring in bursts of cash when they're released, but it's the little regular buys that keep a steady flow, at least from peeps like me.
I saw that pop up (mind you I'm on my phone) and was mad at first because I thought it was a facebook link XD;
Might I suggest you /another staffer making a "what would you buy right now " CS suggestion board? Because it sounds like a lot of users would give if the site was running better (moot, $20 isn't going to fix this) or because there's nothing they want. I will be 125% brutally honest and say if it wasn't for the CWs that I buy for my pet's TCs the only thing I'd really be buying is the books and challengers. All the wears mean nothing to me.
Maybe others share this mentality and exploring the things people want might help the site? (Inb4 half the posts say pet slots then wait until November anyways) (which, is subetas fault to be fair) (actually redoing what all goes on sale might help the site year-round, too),
Can the Daily Support Goal bar please stop changing its color from blue to red and back? I don't mind it much otherwise but the color change is giving me a headache.
...people wait more than an hour to buy pet slots after they're released? o.0
I'll second limiting the damned sale. It's worse than coupon codes tbh.
Seconded. How about putting it on the right with the other Daily stuff? And in the Cash Shop. Not a fan of extra clutter on the sidebar.
I'm not crazy about it being on the sidebar, either. I have nothing against something indicating daily targets, but I don't want to have to look at it all the time. Put it on the news page, the about page, the cash shop, all three! Its current omnipresence makes me feel really guilty for not constantly pouring money into the site.
Hey hey, I'll have you know I only bought 3 slots that day! Then it took me a few more days to sell enough CWs for the other 2 xD!
But yeah pretty typically people actually wait all year to buy them half-priced. Which is a horrible idea because.... A lot of people wait all year. That's income subeta isn't earning. The cost isn't too high because those people buy them if they neeeeeed them then wait for the rest. Hell I do it with my batty name movings.
50% off everything that isn't gold accounts = such a bad idea omg